Punk in Finland

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:16

Taas jotenkin ihan vitun mieltä lämmittävää, että "kaikki" on tienneet mutta kukaan ei oo uskaltanut tehdä mitään.

Modesty Blaise wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:20

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:16

Taas jotenkin ihan vitun mieltä lämmittävää, että "kaikki" on tienneet mutta kukaan ei oo uskaltanut tehdä mitään.

Tää alkaa vituttaa kerta kerran jälkeen vaan enemmän..

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:42

Elikkäs Sandman tais tulla 1989, ja suorilta paukahti goottiguruksi Neil. 35 vuotta ns. sikana vatukossa, kuten eräs vanha kaveri tapasi sanoa.

Caroline Wallner lived in a house on Gaiman’s property in Woodstock, New York between 2014 and 2021 with her three young daughter and, until 2017, her husband. Alongside her work as a ceramic artist in a studio in a barn on the property, Wallner and her husband worked for Gaiman and his then wife Amanda Palmer, including doing property maintenance, gardening, and grocery shopping. Gaiman had moved to the area to teach at Bard College.

Around the time Wallner’s marriage ended in 2017, which she said devastated her emotionally, Gaiman told her ex-husband that there was no more work for him on the property, which had provided the family’s main income. Wallner and her daughters were now dependent on Gaiman for work and housing. While she was in this situation, Wallner, then 55, said that Gaiman began pressuring her for sex.

Wallner said: “There were little hints of, ‘we’re going to need the house’. And I remember saying, let’s talk about it. Let’s figure it out. That’s when he would just come to my studio and make me give him a blowjob”. There is no suggestion of physical force, but rather of coercion in light of her housing and family situation. Wallner said: “And he can say it was consensual. But why would I do that? It was because I was scared of losing my place”, characterising Gaiman’s treatment of her as “sexual abuse.”

The UN defines sexual abuse as actual or threatened sexual contact by force or coercive conditions. The UN’s refugee agency, where Gaiman is a goodwill ambassador, has described the allegations against him published by Tortoise as “very serious”, adding that it is “assessing the detailed reporting”.

During Gaiman’s oral sex with Wallner, she said “he used to say to me ‘Call me your master. Tell me you want it. Tell me you want it.’ He would choke me sometimes.” Wallner recalled one incident where she had fallen asleep reading in bed: “When I woke up, Neil was in the bed and he put my hand on his cock.”

Wallner said that whenever she resisted his sexual advances, Gaiman would tell her Palmer wanted the house back where she lived with her three daughters, as well as the studio she worked in. Wallner recalled one occasion when she said Gaiman told her: ‘‘but you take care of me and I’ll take care of you”, understanding it to be a reference to what she called the “sexual trade”.

paskasti täytetty eläin wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:44

Modesty Blaise wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:20

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:16

Taas jotenkin ihan vitun mieltä lämmittävää, että "kaikki" on tienneet mutta kukaan ei oo uskaltanut tehdä mitään.

Tää alkaa vituttaa kerta kerran jälkeen vaan enemmän..

Hankien kätkemä wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2024, 15:10

paskasti täytetty eläin wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:44

Modesty Blaise wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:20

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:16

Taas jotenkin ihan vitun mieltä lämmittävää, että "kaikki" on tienneet mutta kukaan ei oo uskaltanut tehdä mitään.

Tää alkaa vituttaa kerta kerran jälkeen vaan enemmän..

Hankien kätkemä wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2024, 15:10

paskasti täytetty eläin wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:44

Modesty Blaise wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:20

Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey wrote: ↑

30 Jul 2024, 14:16

Taas jotenkin ihan vitun mieltä lämmittävää, että "kaikki" on tienneet mutta kukaan ei oo uskaltanut tehdä mitään.

Tää alkaa vituttaa kerta kerran jälkeen vaan enemmän..

Lahja wrote: ↑

01 Aug 2024, 14:49

Toi toinen artikkelissa mainittu tapaus on aivan saatanan ällöttävä (SV: seksuaalisen hyväksikäytön kuvausta):

Spoiler:

Caroline Wallner lived in a house on Gaiman’s property in Woodstock, New York between 2014 and 2021 with her three young daughter and, until 2017, her husband. Alongside her work as a ceramic artist in a studio in a barn on the property, Wallner and her husband worked for Gaiman and his then wife Amanda Palmer, including doing property maintenance, gardening, and grocery shopping. Gaiman had moved to the area to teach at Bard College.

Around the time Wallner’s marriage ended in 2017, which she said devastated her emotionally, Gaiman told her ex-husband that there was no more work for him on the property, which had provided the family’s main income. Wallner and her daughters were now dependent on Gaiman for work and housing. While she was in this situation, Wallner, then 55, said that Gaiman began pressuring her for sex.

Wallner said: “There were little hints of, ‘we’re going to need the house’. And I remember saying, let’s talk about it. Let’s figure it out. That’s when he would just come to my studio and make me give him a blowjob”. There is no suggestion of physical force, but rather of coercion in light of her housing and family situation. Wallner said: “And he can say it was consensual. But why would I do that? It was because I was scared of losing my place”, characterising Gaiman’s treatment of her as “sexual abuse.”

The UN defines sexual abuse as actual or threatened sexual contact by force or coercive conditions. The UN’s refugee agency, where Gaiman is a goodwill ambassador, has described the allegations against him published by Tortoise as “very serious”, adding that it is “assessing the detailed reporting”.

During Gaiman’s oral sex with Wallner, she said “he used to say to me ‘Call me your master. Tell me you want it. Tell me you want it.’ He would choke me sometimes.” Wallner recalled one incident where she had fallen asleep reading in bed: “When I woke up, Neil was in the bed and he put my hand on his cock.”

Wallner said that whenever she resisted his sexual advances, Gaiman would tell her Palmer wanted the house back where she lived with her three daughters, as well as the studio she worked in. Wallner recalled one occasion when she said Gaiman told her: ‘‘but you take care of me and I’ll take care of you”, understanding it to be a reference to what she called the “sexual trade”.

Jos noiden aiempien raportoitujen naisten kertomusten kohdalla jotkut fanit pysty vielä halkomaan hiusta, että oliko kyseessä valta-aseman väärinkäyttö vai ei (vastaus: kyllä oli), niin tässä tapauksessa ei oo kyllä enää mitään epäselvää.

Toivottavasti Gaiman ei näiden julkitulon myötä oo enää ikinä sellaisessa asemassa, että voisi pakottaa naisia seksiin tai groomata fanejaan.