Taitaa tulla kiire lasten rokotusten kans jos tämä pitää paikkansa ja RIP alle 5-vuotiaat (tai no, ei niitä oo vielä kuollut, mutta sairaalahoidossa toiseksi isoimpana ryhmänä yli 60-vuotiaiden jälkeen). Mahdollisesti eka omicron-vainaja myös, riskiryhmiin kuulumaton 15-vuotias.
'Worrying': Omicron doctor reveals variant's terrible toll on kids, teen's death
A South African doctor has warned that more children are being hospitalised with moderate to severe symptoms since the Omicron variant of the coronavirus took hold.
Dr Rudo Mathivha, head of Intensive Care at Chris Hani Baragwanath hospital, said the shift in demographics is very worrying as the number of sick patients presenting to hospitals has increased exponentially.
Mathivha said the hospital is reportedly admitting around 5-10 children at a time.
She also told of a 15-year-old who died after their condition rapidly deteriorated following a Covid infection, and a 17-year-old who has been placed in ICU on a ventilator with coronavirus-related pneumonia.
It's not yet clear if they both had the Omicron variant.
"The situation is pretty concerning," Mathivha told the South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC).
"Because this is not something that we had observed with the first, second and third wave.
" … In the past, the children used to get a Covid infection … and it wouldn't really put them down, it wouldn't really send them to hospital in big number to be admitted.
"We are now seeing them [children] coming in with moderate to severe symptoms needing supplemental oxygen, needing supportive therapy, needing to stay in hospital for quite a number of days.
"But what really broke my heart yesterday was a 15-year-old previously well child, no illness. Two day history of fever, comes into the hospital, tests positive for Covid and literally deteriorates in front of our eyes and nothing, no supportive therapy that we could do could help him.
"And we lost that patient … this is the first incident [here] of a child who had no comorbidities and nothing existing before who has passed from Covid that I am aware of."
She warned the hospital may soon not be able to accommodate any more children.
"This is going to be a major problem for us. Our hospitals were not built to house a lot of children. Because naturally children do not get that sick in multitude.
"We will not be able to accommodate them, and I'm not saying this to make people panic," Mathivha said.
"I am saying this to say, all these preventive measures we take to interrupt transmission of Covid let them be applied to the children as well."
Children 12 years and under are not yet eligible for vaccination in the country.
South Africa is currently in the fourth wave of the pandemic, due to Omicron.
On Saturday, the South African Government said the Omicron variant of Covid-19 is disproportionately affecting children under 5 as experts rubbish the notion that the latest strain is "mild".
Government adviser Waasila Jassat told reporters in the Johannesburg area, where the virus is spreading widely, there has been "quite a sharp increase" in hospital admissions "across all age groups but particularly in the under 5".
"The incidence in those under 5 is now second highest, second only to those over 60," she said.
The Daily Beast reported epidemiologist Michelle Groome told the virtual press conference in South Africa that seven-day average for cases in one badly-affected province had jumped from 332 to more than 4800 in three days.
And on Friday it was reported that children under the age of 2 now make up 10 per cent of hospital admissions in South Africa's Omicron ground zero.
While the new variant was first detected in Botswana, South Africa has emerged as the strain's epicentre, with the city of Tshwane in the Gauteng province one of the worst affected regions.
According to an analysis by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD), there has been a recent surge in Covid hospital admissions among toddlers.
Speaking during a media briefing by the Department of Health this week, NICD's Dr Waasila Jassat said young children seemed to be "more at risk", although it was not yet clear if the surge in admissions was linked to Omicron.
"When you look at the numbers of admissions by age, what we normally see is a large number of admissions in older people.
"But in this early resurgence in Tshwane, we are seeing most admissions in the 0-2 age group. And we are seeing a large number of admissions in the middle ages, sort of around 28 to 38."
Jassat said the trend could be because children under 12 were not vaccinated, and also because parents were more concerned about the new variant, and therefore more likely to take their children to hospital at the first signs of illness.
"The very young children have an immature immune system and they are also not vaccinated, so they are more at risk."
Eilen Guardianissa luki että edelleenkään ei yhtään varmistettua kuolemaa omicronista, 38 maassa tapauksia. Mikähän se keskimääräinen aika on mikä kestää covidiin kuolla? Länsimaissa näyttäs tämän hetken case fatality-ratio huitelevan jossain 1,2-1,7% tiimoilla koko väestölle, niin kai noita tapauksia ja ruumiita pitäis tulla sen verran vuodenvaihteeseen mennessä että voidaan sanoa onks toi miten paljon pienempi.
Muistelen että korkeintaan viikko menee altistumisesta oireisiin, ja oireet pahimmillaan 8-10 vrk jälkeen. Osastolla-oloaika voi olla sitten n. viikko-pari päälle?
Palatakseni tähän googlettelin mutuilun tueksi ja ekoina tuloksina tuli että:
UKssa:
ekassa aallossa noin 13 vrk oireista kuolemaan (julkaisu laadittu lokakuussa 2020), pari päivää ehtivät olla sairaalassa
(lähde: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _death.pdf )
Australiassa:
Based on these Australian data it is concluded that death from COVID-19 occurs within three weeks of diagnosis on average but takes five weeks in 10% of fatal cases. Fatality risk is negligible in the young but rises above 40% in the elderly, while time to death does not seem to vary by age.
(lähde: https://rdcu.be/cCIWm )
tuossa aussilähteessä varmasti tilastoniiloja kiinnostavaa juttua kaavoineen ja muuta käppyränmuodostusta
Ken-nukkea esittävä Ryan Gosling wrote:Tässä kyseisessä proggiksessa ikävä kyllä vähän sellaista samanlaista vaaran tuntua kuin kuunnellessa palvelutalon vanhusten kuorsaamista.
1.2 miljoonaa koronadiagnoosia kaikenkaikkiaan Ruotsissa, eli ei ihan mikään hirveän harvinainen asia kyseessä, vaikka varmasti on jäänyt paljon koronadiagnooseja tekemättä. Ilmeisesti nuo luvut olisi aikalailla linjassa brittien lukujen kanssa. Toivottavasti ei osu omalle kohdalle vaikka rokotteet on kunnossa jne..
Eilen Guardianissa luki että edelleenkään ei yhtään varmistettua kuolemaa omicronista, 38 maassa tapauksia. Mikähän se keskimääräinen aika on mikä kestää covidiin kuolla? Länsimaissa näyttäs tämän hetken case fatality-ratio huitelevan jossain 1,2-1,7% tiimoilla koko väestölle, niin kai noita tapauksia ja ruumiita pitäis tulla sen verran vuodenvaihteeseen mennessä että voidaan sanoa onks toi miten paljon pienempi.
Muistelen että korkeintaan viikko menee altistumisesta oireisiin, ja oireet pahimmillaan 8-10 vrk jälkeen. Osastolla-oloaika voi olla sitten n. viikko-pari päälle?
Palatakseni tähän googlettelin mutuilun tueksi ja ekoina tuloksina tuli että:
UKssa:
ekassa aallossa noin 13 vrk oireista kuolemaan (julkaisu laadittu lokakuussa 2020), pari päivää ehtivät olla sairaalassa
(lähde: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _death.pdf )
aika jännä, että nuorilla ja keski-ikäisillä jopa lyhyempi aika oireista kuolemaan kuin vanhuksilla.
Vitu Hanna wrote:
Mikä hitto tää uus nikki on, luulin sua joksikin huumeidenkäyttäjäksi
Eilen Guardianissa luki että edelleenkään ei yhtään varmistettua kuolemaa omicronista, 38 maassa tapauksia. Mikähän se keskimääräinen aika on mikä kestää covidiin kuolla? Länsimaissa näyttäs tämän hetken case fatality-ratio huitelevan jossain 1,2-1,7% tiimoilla koko väestölle, niin kai noita tapauksia ja ruumiita pitäis tulla sen verran vuodenvaihteeseen mennessä että voidaan sanoa onks toi miten paljon pienempi.
Muistelen että korkeintaan viikko menee altistumisesta oireisiin, ja oireet pahimmillaan 8-10 vrk jälkeen. Osastolla-oloaika voi olla sitten n. viikko-pari päälle?
Palatakseni tähän googlettelin mutuilun tueksi ja ekoina tuloksina tuli että:
UKssa:
ekassa aallossa noin 13 vrk oireista kuolemaan (julkaisu laadittu lokakuussa 2020), pari päivää ehtivät olla sairaalassa
(lähde: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.u ... _death.pdf )
aika jännä, että nuorilla ja keski-ikäisillä jopa lyhyempi aika oireista kuolemaan kuin vanhuksilla.
Oisko tässä esim. se, että nää on just niitä, joilla on geneettinen alttius, ja vanhuksissa on sitten niitä, joilla ei ole sitä, mutta heikon kunnon takia hiipuvat hitaasti siihen lievempään versioon?
Keskimäärin rapiat 100k tartuntaa päivässä, ~1600 kuolemaa, omikronia todettu 16ssa osavaltiossa ja tiukemmat rajoitukset ulkomailta tuleville. Noin 60% väestöstä täysin rokotettu joista neljäsosalla on kolmas piikki.
Eihän tää hyvältä näytä näin joulun ollessa jo kohta ovella.
CNN wrote:The US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases a day, the highest level in two months
For the first time in two months, the US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases each day, shortly after millions of Americans traveled for the Thanksgiving holiday.
The seven-day moving average of new cases was 121,437 as of Saturday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). Prior to this week, the US last topped the 100,000-cases-a-day mark in early October.
Also on the rise is the number of Covid-19 deaths, with a seven-day average of 1,651 people dying from the virus each day as of Saturday, the JHU data showed. Average daily deaths haven't been this high in more than a month.
The vast majority of new cases in the US continue to be from the Delta variant, but US health officials have detected the new Omicron coronavirus variant in at least 16 states as of Saturday.
Jotenkin toi jenkkien meno on niin vitun ääliömäistä että kyynisesti tekis mieli sanoo että kuolkoot sit vaan ku kerran haluavat. Käytännössä ekoina saivat käytännössä rajattoman pääsyn rna-rokotteisiin, vitu 800k raatoa mut rokotteita ei oteta ku vitun seinähullua politiikkaa on viruksella tehtävä
Kellä kutiseva reikä illalla, sillä haiseva sormi aamulla.
Keskimäärin rapiat 100k tartuntaa päivässä, ~1600 kuolemaa, omikronia todettu 16ssa osavaltiossa ja tiukemmat rajoitukset ulkomailta tuleville. Noin 60% väestöstä täysin rokotettu joista neljäsosalla on kolmas piikki.
Eihän tää hyvältä näytä näin joulun ollessa jo kohta ovella.
CNN wrote:The US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases a day, the highest level in two months
For the first time in two months, the US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases each day, shortly after millions of Americans traveled for the Thanksgiving holiday.
The seven-day moving average of new cases was 121,437 as of Saturday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). Prior to this week, the US last topped the 100,000-cases-a-day mark in early October.
Also on the rise is the number of Covid-19 deaths, with a seven-day average of 1,651 people dying from the virus each day as of Saturday, the JHU data showed. Average daily deaths haven't been this high in more than a month.
The vast majority of new cases in the US continue to be from the Delta variant, but US health officials have detected the new Omicron coronavirus variant in at least 16 states as of Saturday.
Jotenkin toi jenkkien meno on niin vitun ääliömäistä että kyynisesti tekis mieli sanoo että kuolkoot sit vaan ku kerran haluavat. Käytännössä ekoina saivat käytännössä rajattoman pääsyn rna-rokotteisiin, vitu 800k raatoa mut rokotteita ei oteta ku vitun seinähullua politiikkaa on viruksella tehtävä
Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame
Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden. That's according to a new analysis by NPR that examines how political polarization and misinformation are driving a significant share of the deaths in the pandemic.
NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.
In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth, according to Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst who's been tracking partisanship trends during the pandemic and helped to review NPR's methodology. Those numbers have dropped slightly in recent weeks, Gaba says: "It's back down to around 5.5 times higher."
En minä näillekkään hulluille haluais tätä paskaa, mutta eihän näitä voi kun epäuskoisesti päätä pudistellen seurata mahdollisimman etäältä.
Tanskassa ja Norjassa molemmissa melkein 300 todettua omikrontapausta alle viikossa ja uusia tartuntoja n. 4000 per päivä. Ruotsissa ei tehdä juuri mitään sekvensointia, niin ei voi tietää yhtään paljon on tapauksia. Norjassa on nyt alettua puhua siitä, että rokotteiden buusteriannoks(ia) vois antaa 2-3kk välein, jotta voidaan ennaltaehkästä tartuntoja.
"Minähän olen lapsia pureva poliisi. Minähän puhun kaiken aikaa totta."
Keskimäärin rapiat 100k tartuntaa päivässä, ~1600 kuolemaa, omikronia todettu 16ssa osavaltiossa ja tiukemmat rajoitukset ulkomailta tuleville. Noin 60% väestöstä täysin rokotettu joista neljäsosalla on kolmas piikki.
Eihän tää hyvältä näytä näin joulun ollessa jo kohta ovella.
CNN wrote:The US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases a day, the highest level in two months
For the first time in two months, the US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases each day, shortly after millions of Americans traveled for the Thanksgiving holiday.
The seven-day moving average of new cases was 121,437 as of Saturday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). Prior to this week, the US last topped the 100,000-cases-a-day mark in early October.
Also on the rise is the number of Covid-19 deaths, with a seven-day average of 1,651 people dying from the virus each day as of Saturday, the JHU data showed. Average daily deaths haven't been this high in more than a month.
The vast majority of new cases in the US continue to be from the Delta variant, but US health officials have detected the new Omicron coronavirus variant in at least 16 states as of Saturday.
Jotenkin toi jenkkien meno on niin vitun ääliömäistä että kyynisesti tekis mieli sanoo että kuolkoot sit vaan ku kerran haluavat. Käytännössä ekoina saivat käytännössä rajattoman pääsyn rna-rokotteisiin, vitu 800k raatoa mut rokotteita ei oteta ku vitun seinähullua politiikkaa on viruksella tehtävä
Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame
Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden. That's according to a new analysis by NPR that examines how political polarization and misinformation are driving a significant share of the deaths in the pandemic.
NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.
In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth, according to Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst who's been tracking partisanship trends during the pandemic and helped to review NPR's methodology. Those numbers have dropped slightly in recent weeks, Gaba says: "It's back down to around 5.5 times higher."
En minä näillekkään hulluille haluais tätä paskaa, mutta eihän näitä voi kun epäuskoisesti päätä pudistellen seurata mahdollisimman etäältä.
vähän outoo kun trump on kuitenkin ollut äänekäs rokottamisen puolestapuhuja. kuka sitä politiikkaa rokotekriittisyydellä on tehnyt?
Tanskassa ja Norjassa molemmissa melkein 300 todettua omikrontapausta alle viikossa ja uusia tartuntoja n. 4000 per päivä. Ruotsissa ei tehdä juuri mitään sekvensointia, niin ei voi tietää yhtään paljon on tapauksia. Norjassa on nyt alettua puhua siitä, että rokotteiden buusteriannoks(ia) vois antaa 2-3kk välein, jotta voidaan ennaltaehkästä tartuntoja.
Onks Norjassa puhuttu, mistä ne repäsee noi buusteriannoksensa?
Vitu Hanna wrote:
Mikä hitto tää uus nikki on, luulin sua joksikin huumeidenkäyttäjäksi
Taitaa tulla kiire lasten rokotusten kans jos tämä pitää paikkansa ja RIP alle 5-vuotiaat (tai no, ei niitä oo vielä kuollut, mutta sairaalahoidossa toiseksi isoimpana ryhmänä yli 60-vuotiaiden jälkeen). Mahdollisesti eka omicron-vainaja myös, riskiryhmiin kuulumaton 15-vuotias.
'Worrying': Omicron doctor reveals variant's terrible toll on kids, teen's death
A South African doctor has warned that more children are being hospitalised with moderate to severe symptoms since the Omicron variant of the coronavirus took hold.
Dr Rudo Mathivha, head of Intensive Care at Chris Hani Baragwanath hospital, said the shift in demographics is very worrying as the number of sick patients presenting to hospitals has increased exponentially.
Mathivha said the hospital is reportedly admitting around 5-10 children at a time.
She also told of a 15-year-old who died after their condition rapidly deteriorated following a Covid infection, and a 17-year-old who has been placed in ICU on a ventilator with coronavirus-related pneumonia.
It's not yet clear if they both had the Omicron variant.
"The situation is pretty concerning," Mathivha told the South African Broadcasting Corporation (SABC).
"Because this is not something that we had observed with the first, second and third wave.
" … In the past, the children used to get a Covid infection … and it wouldn't really put them down, it wouldn't really send them to hospital in big number to be admitted.
"We are now seeing them [children] coming in with moderate to severe symptoms needing supplemental oxygen, needing supportive therapy, needing to stay in hospital for quite a number of days.
"But what really broke my heart yesterday was a 15-year-old previously well child, no illness. Two day history of fever, comes into the hospital, tests positive for Covid and literally deteriorates in front of our eyes and nothing, no supportive therapy that we could do could help him.
"And we lost that patient … this is the first incident [here] of a child who had no comorbidities and nothing existing before who has passed from Covid that I am aware of."
She warned the hospital may soon not be able to accommodate any more children.
"This is going to be a major problem for us. Our hospitals were not built to house a lot of children. Because naturally children do not get that sick in multitude.
"We will not be able to accommodate them, and I'm not saying this to make people panic," Mathivha said.
"I am saying this to say, all these preventive measures we take to interrupt transmission of Covid let them be applied to the children as well."
Children 12 years and under are not yet eligible for vaccination in the country.
South Africa is currently in the fourth wave of the pandemic, due to Omicron.
On Saturday, the South African Government said the Omicron variant of Covid-19 is disproportionately affecting children under 5 as experts rubbish the notion that the latest strain is "mild".
Government adviser Waasila Jassat told reporters in the Johannesburg area, where the virus is spreading widely, there has been "quite a sharp increase" in hospital admissions "across all age groups but particularly in the under 5".
"The incidence in those under 5 is now second highest, second only to those over 60," she said.
The Daily Beast reported epidemiologist Michelle Groome told the virtual press conference in South Africa that seven-day average for cases in one badly-affected province had jumped from 332 to more than 4800 in three days.
And on Friday it was reported that children under the age of 2 now make up 10 per cent of hospital admissions in South Africa's Omicron ground zero.
While the new variant was first detected in Botswana, South Africa has emerged as the strain's epicentre, with the city of Tshwane in the Gauteng province one of the worst affected regions.
According to an analysis by South Africa's National Institute for Communicable Diseases (NICD), there has been a recent surge in Covid hospital admissions among toddlers.
Speaking during a media briefing by the Department of Health this week, NICD's Dr Waasila Jassat said young children seemed to be "more at risk", although it was not yet clear if the surge in admissions was linked to Omicron.
"When you look at the numbers of admissions by age, what we normally see is a large number of admissions in older people.
"But in this early resurgence in Tshwane, we are seeing most admissions in the 0-2 age group. And we are seeing a large number of admissions in the middle ages, sort of around 28 to 38."
Jassat said the trend could be because children under 12 were not vaccinated, and also because parents were more concerned about the new variant, and therefore more likely to take their children to hospital at the first signs of illness.
"The very young children have an immature immune system and they are also not vaccinated, so they are more at risk."
Ei kyrvän kyrpä jos tämä on totta. Olisi mielestäni se kaikista pahin kuviteltavissa oleva koronaskenaario.
Keskimäärin rapiat 100k tartuntaa päivässä, ~1600 kuolemaa, omikronia todettu 16ssa osavaltiossa ja tiukemmat rajoitukset ulkomailta tuleville. Noin 60% väestöstä täysin rokotettu joista neljäsosalla on kolmas piikki.
Eihän tää hyvältä näytä näin joulun ollessa jo kohta ovella.
CNN wrote:The US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases a day, the highest level in two months
For the first time in two months, the US is averaging more than 100,000 new Covid-19 cases each day, shortly after millions of Americans traveled for the Thanksgiving holiday.
The seven-day moving average of new cases was 121,437 as of Saturday, according to data from Johns Hopkins University (JHU). Prior to this week, the US last topped the 100,000-cases-a-day mark in early October.
Also on the rise is the number of Covid-19 deaths, with a seven-day average of 1,651 people dying from the virus each day as of Saturday, the JHU data showed. Average daily deaths haven't been this high in more than a month.
The vast majority of new cases in the US continue to be from the Delta variant, but US health officials have detected the new Omicron coronavirus variant in at least 16 states as of Saturday.
Jotenkin toi jenkkien meno on niin vitun ääliömäistä että kyynisesti tekis mieli sanoo että kuolkoot sit vaan ku kerran haluavat. Käytännössä ekoina saivat käytännössä rajattoman pääsyn rna-rokotteisiin, vitu 800k raatoa mut rokotteita ei oteta ku vitun seinähullua politiikkaa on viruksella tehtävä
Pro-Trump counties now have far higher COVID death rates. Misinformation is to blame
Since May 2021, people living in counties that voted heavily for Donald Trump during the last presidential election have been nearly three times as likely to die from COVID-19 as those who live in areas that went for now-President Biden. That's according to a new analysis by NPR that examines how political polarization and misinformation are driving a significant share of the deaths in the pandemic.
NPR looked at deaths per 100,000 people in roughly 3,000 counties across the U.S. from May 2021, the point at which vaccinations widely became available. People living in counties that went 60% or higher for Trump in November 2020 had 2.78 times the death rates of those that went for Biden. Counties with an even higher share of the vote for Trump saw higher COVID-19 mortality rates.
In October, the reddest tenth of the country saw death rates that were six times higher than the bluest tenth, according to Charles Gaba, an independent health care analyst who's been tracking partisanship trends during the pandemic and helped to review NPR's methodology. Those numbers have dropped slightly in recent weeks, Gaba says: "It's back down to around 5.5 times higher."
En minä näillekkään hulluille haluais tätä paskaa, mutta eihän näitä voi kun epäuskoisesti päätä pudistellen seurata mahdollisimman etäältä.
vähän outoo kun trump on kuitenkin ollut äänekäs rokottamisen puolestapuhuja. kuka sitä politiikkaa rokotekriittisyydellä on tehnyt?
Melkein kaikki johtavat republikaanit, kuvernöörit ja kongressimiehet sekä senaattorit. Vastustaa suunnilleen kaikkia toimia ja Trump tietty etunenässä, puolueessa on Trumpia kovempia antivaxxereita toki, ja oranssi paska tietysti ajaa kaikilla rattailla. Ottaa kunnian rokotteista, samalla kylvää epäluuloa niihin toisaalta toisaalta tyyliin. Nyt on ilmoittanut että tuskimpa mitään vitun buuster shotteja hakee
Kellä kutiseva reikä illalla, sillä haiseva sormi aamulla.