Täällä seurataan Britannian lähtöä EU:sta 23.6.2016

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Ahhh, hyvä Nigel, hiero sitä paskaa konservatiiveihin

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https://www.theneweuropean.co.uk/brexit ... zu8Byh5B9A

Joe Biden adviser warns 'in almost every area Brexit would be negative for US'

An adviser to Joe Biden, tipped to become the next UK ambassador to the US, has issued a warning over Brexit - saying in almost every area it would have negative consequences for his country.

Anthony Gardner, a former American ambassador to the EU, told an audience in Germany that Brexit was the "biggest own-goal" he had ever seen.


Speaking at ESMT business school in Berlin, he predicted that Biden would use his first day to commit America to working with the European Union.

“If Biden is elected I believe quickly, perhaps first day, [there will be a] declaration of support for the European Union, declaration of support for European integration, declaration of support in favour of NATO, the lynchpin of transatlantic alliance, which has been weakened because of this administration's policies.”

In a warning to Britain, the former diplomat pointed to the negative consequences Brexit will have on Britain and the EU - and in particular the US.

“I won't talk about Brexit, I've lived it, everyone's bored by it, Europe needs to move on.

“It's the biggest own-goal that I've seen in my lifetime.

“All of the analysis that we did under the Obama administration, which were intensive, we looked at all the areas of our interaction with Europe.

“Our conclusion was that in almost every area Brexit would be negative for the United States, for Europe and for the UK. That analysis I believe has proven to be correct.

“Here's a dramatic difference: Donald Trump has only believed that the US-UK link was important, he was a cheerleader for Brexit.

“Joe Biden believes that the triangle of relationships, US-UK, UK-EU, US and EU, all have to work together, and you will see statements to that effect.”

Biden is reportedly planning a mini tour of the EU following his inauguration to cement fresh relations between his country and Europe.

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[Dame Cressida Dick]

Oisko jollain oikeuksia tai digitaitoja, että näkis ton kokonaan?

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Meanwhile in Little Britain:

Boris Johnson has risked opening a rift with the US president-elect, Joe Biden, by insisting the internal markets bill that reneges on part of the EU withdrawal agreement would go ahead as planned.

The prime minister said the legislation would go through parliament and added that the planned changes, which would hand unilateral power to ministers to change or disapply export rules for goods traveling from Britain to Northern Ireland, would protect the Good Friday peace deal.

“The whole point of that bill and indeed the finance bill is to protect and uphold the Good Friday agreement and the peace process in Northern Ireland. And again, that’s one of the things that we’re united on with our friends in the White House,” he said.

Biden, who has Irish roots, has expressed negative views on the UK’s plans to override parts of the agreement if no deal is reached with the bloc.

During the campaign, Biden said that “any trade deal between the US and UK must be contingent upon respect for the agreement and preventing the return of a hard border”.

Johnson, who has not yet spoken to Biden, said there was “far more that unites the government of this country and government in Washington any time, any stage, than divides us” – despite a series of sceptical comments made by Biden and his allies about the prime minister.

The House of Lords is expected to vote this week to remove parts of the internal markets bill that would break international law by removing some of the commitments in the agreement, something Labour has challenged the government to concede.

Biden has previously called Johnson the “physical and emotional clone of Donald Trump” and allies of the new Democratic administration have been scathing about the UK prime minister.

Tommy Vietor, the former national security spokesman for Barack Obama, commenting on the prime minister’s congratulatory message to Biden, tweeted that Johnson was a “shapeshifting creep” and added: “We will never forget your racist comments about Obama and slavish devotion to Trump.”

Johnson said there was much the pair could work on, including climate change. Biden’s predecessor, Donald Trump, exited the Paris climate agreement, which Biden has said he will renew.

“I think now with President Biden in the White House in Washington, we have the real prospect of American global leadership in tackling climate change,” he said.

“I see that President Biden shares a slogan, ‘Build Back Better’ – we claim no proprietary rights over that slogan. But when you when you come to build back better, one of the ways to do it is to do it through a green industrial revolution.”

Johnson played down any prospect of immediate trade negotiations with the US under Biden. “I’m a keen student of the United States’ trade policy and they’re tough negotiations,” he said. “And I’ve never believed that this was going to be something that was going to be a complete pushover under any US administration. I think there’s a good chance we’ll do something.”

Earlier, the foreign secretary, Dominic Raab, said he would “listen very carefully” to the concerns of US Democrats but said the risk to the Good Friday agreement came from the EU.

Lihavoin huutonaurukohdan.

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/20 ... eal-brexit

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siinä vaiheessa ollaan syvällä kun raab edes puhuu että pitäis kuunnella huolia, vaikka nätisti heittääkin sen heti perään romukoppaan

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Meanwhile in Little Britain:

Boris Johnson has risked opening a rift with the US president-elect, Joe Biden, by insisting the internal markets bill that reneges on part of the EU withdrawal agreement would go ahead as planned.

Housuun kakkantaminen on jokaisen ihmisen luovuttamaton oikeus!

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Miten toi Raab voi olla noin sekaisin? Ihan oikeasti, onko briteistä hävinnyt ihan kaikenlainen kokemuspohja todellisuuden kanssa yhtäkkiä? Todellinen Eton Mess.

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Tommy Vietor, the former national security spokesman for Barack Obama, commenting on the prime minister’s congratulatory message to Biden, tweeted that Johnson was a “shapeshifting creep” and added: “We will never forget your racist comments about Obama and slavish devotion to Trump.”

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Business Insiderissa saman suuntaista läppää

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-bid ... ?r=US&IR=T

Joe Biden's election victory could soon spell trouble for Britain's 'mini-Trump' Boris Johnson

Thomas Colson and Adam Payne Nov 7, 2020, 12:00 PM
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Joe Biden's election victory is causing concern for some supporters of UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson.

Johnson is not viewed favorably by Biden who once labeled him a "kind of a physical and emotional clone" of Donald Trump.

Johnson's past jibes against former president Barack Obama are still remembered by the President-elect, sources on his campaign told Business Insider.

"Joe has a long memory," about such things, one Biden campaign source said.

Johnson's warm relationship with President Trump and his role as an architect of Brexit could also sour relations between the two countries.

The Democratic nominee and now President-elect has won the 2020 presidential election over Donald Trump, according to projections by Decision Desk HQ.


As President-elect Joe Biden prepares to enter the White House in January, concerns have been growing in the UK about what his election will mean for relations between the US and the man President Trump once labeled "Britain Trump."

UK Prime Minister Boris Johnson and Biden are not natural bedfellows. Figures on Biden's campaign have told Business Insider that the president-elect has genuine hostility towards the prime minister who he believes is a right-wing populist cut from the same cloth as the outgoing president.

This disdain for Johnson was apparent in a remark made by Biden last December that went largely unnoticed in the UK press, in which he called Johnson "kind of a physical and emotional clone" of Donald Trump.

The same sentiment was echoed by prominent Conservative party journalist James Forsyth, who on Friday wrote in the Times of London that those around Biden see Johnson as a "mini-Trump."


This apparent disdain has several origins. One key moment seems to have been Johnson's comments in 2016 towards Barack Obama, when he claimed that the former president's "part-Kenyan" heritage meant he had an "ancestral dislike of the British empire."

A source in Biden's campaign team told Business Insider that "Joe has a long memory," about such things.

"Barack Obama and Joe Biden are family. It's not a political friendship," they added.

Those around Johnson are optimistic that a good relationship can be built between the two leaders.

However, some UK diplomats and politicians believe that Downing Street may have underestimated the extent to which Biden might feel real personal animosity towards Boris Johnson.

This animosity stems from Johnson's warm relationship with President Trump.

"The events of 2016 created a Boris/Trump relationship which will undoubtedly have stuck in the throats of some in the Democratic party in the United States and they've used their political closeness since," Nigel Sheinwald, the former US ambassador in Washington, told Business Insider.

"That will have a short-term effect [in general] and a short-term effect on the UK media who tend to see these things in highly vivid and colourful ways."

This point was echoed by Peter Westmacott, another former UK ambassador to Washington, who told an Institute for Government event last week that "the last couple of prime ministers here in the United Kingdom have made a point of getting close to the Trump administration and that has not gone without notice in the Biden team. So there will be a bit of work to be done."

Biden's team is said to have been keeping a close eye on Johnson's UK government. Dominic Cummings, the UK prime minister's self-described anti-establishment chief adviser, is often likened by some on Biden's team to Stephen Miller, the policy adviser to Trump who played a big part in the president's controversial 2017 travel ban and policy of separating migrant children from their parents.

Then there is the issue of Brexit, which Biden remains ideologically opposed to.
Biden has already angered some in Downing Street by warning Boris Johnson away from a threat to break International law and potentially undermine the Good Friday Agreement, a move widely seen as a negotiating gambit to secure favourable Brexit terms from the EU.


Biden, who has Irish roots, has called the Good Friday Agreement one of the US's most significant foreign policy achievements and takes an intense interest in the Irish peace process. Johnson's perceived threats to undermine the process will not have been received well.

However, a former White House official who is close to the Biden campaign said that while the president-elect does not have a strong personal relationship with Prime Minister Johnson, his team is wary of creating a negative first impression in the UK and wants to avoid looking confrontational.

"My guess is they'll reach out very early and there's been specific talk about the UK being a first call. People are aware of history and aware of tradition and don't want to make waves unless it's absolutely necessary," they told Business Insider.


The two men have never met, Downing Street confirmed this week. However, there is broader room for the two men to build a strong working relationship.

The president-elect has pledged to rejoin the Paris accord, a landmark climate change agreement from which Trump pulled the US, to end trade wars with other powers, and to bring an end to spats and attacks on American allies.

"In the long run, unless I've got Biden wrong, I see him as a pragmatist, someone with a conventional view of American interest and power," said Nigel Sheinwald, the former UK ambassador to the US, in an interview with Business Insider.

A president who acts with a traditional understanding and approach to US alliances and power structures will undoubtedly be welcome in Downing Street.


"I would very much hope that, should there be a Biden presidency, we would see a recommitment to climate change, to efforts in the Middle East to seek a way forward with Iran rather than just confrontation," said Alistair Burt, a former UK Foreign Office minister.

The truth, however, is that a Biden presidency will present a fast-moving mix of both problems and opportunities for Johnson's Downing Street.

"We often get into absolute binary discussions — somebody's good for us, somebody's bad for us," said Burt, who worked closely alongside Johnson.

"It isn't like that. A Biden presidency will have mixed issues for the United Kingdom. There will be things that many of us in the United Kingdom would like to see, and there will be other areas which may be tougher for the United Kingdom."

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Tosiaan, ilmeisesti life comes at you fast:

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Vittu alan rakastaa Bideniä. Jo nyt.

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Eli nyt sinne Conrwalliin, Walesiin ja Gloucestershireen vitusti satama-aluetta ja tulleja kahdessa viikossa. Juuh. This will happen. Borisin palli tutisee.