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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

#28801 Post by otsasuoni sykkii » 03 May 2019, 15:06

Hikinen Möhömaha wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:03
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03 May 2019, 12:14
Hikinen Möhömaha wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:51
Robin Huudi wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:40
Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:37
Robin Huudi wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:31
Trumpetti vois kyl olla se raamatun yks hevonen nimeltä sota.
nussin pilkkua mutta raamatussa näistä neljästä heppaukosta nimetään vain kuolema eikä kuvaukset viittaa hevosiin vaan ratsastajiin
no mä itse kutsun niit hepuiksi.

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Niin lähti toinen hevonen, tulipunainen, ja sen selässä istuvalle annettiin valta ottaa pois rauha maasta, että ihmiset surmaisivat toisiaan; ja hänelle annettiin suuri miekka.
Eli istuiko sun mielestä ton tulipunaisen hevosen selässä toinen hevonen, jolle annettiin suuri miekka? :o
miekkahan muutes näyttää isolta, jos on pienet kädet. :P
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

#28802 Post by sössön sössön » 03 May 2019, 15:09

enimmäkseen harmiton wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:06
Hikinen Möhömaha wrote:
03 May 2019, 15:03
spermakroisos wrote:
03 May 2019, 12:14
Hikinen Möhömaha wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:51
Robin Huudi wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:40
Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:37
Robin Huudi wrote:
03 May 2019, 00:31
Trumpetti vois kyl olla se raamatun yks hevonen nimeltä sota.
nussin pilkkua mutta raamatussa näistä neljästä heppaukosta nimetään vain kuolema eikä kuvaukset viittaa hevosiin vaan ratsastajiin
no mä itse kutsun niit hepuiksi.

Ilm. 6:4

Niin lähti toinen hevonen, tulipunainen, ja sen selässä istuvalle annettiin valta ottaa pois rauha maasta, että ihmiset surmaisivat toisiaan; ja hänelle annettiin suuri miekka.
Eli istuiko sun mielestä ton tulipunaisen hevosen selässä toinen hevonen, jolle annettiin suuri miekka? :o
miekkahan muutes näyttää isolta, jos on pienet kädet. :P
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#28803 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 03 May 2019, 15:36

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#28804 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 03 May 2019, 15:41

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#28805 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 03 May 2019, 15:57

F.B.I. Sent Investigator Posing as Assistant to Meet With Trump Aide in 2016

May 2, 2019

WASHINGTON — The conversation at a London bar in September 2016 took a strange turn when the woman sitting across from George Papadopoulos, a Trump campaign adviser, asked a direct question: Was the Trump campaign working with Russia?

The woman had set up the meeting to discuss foreign policy issues. But she was actually a government investigator posing as a research assistant, according to people familiar with the operation. The F.B.I. sent her to London as part of the counterintelligence inquiry opened that summer to better understand the Trump campaign’s links to Russia.

The American government’s affiliation with the woman, who said her name was Azra Turk, is one previously unreported detail of an operation that has become a political flash point in the face of accusations by President Trump and his allies that American law enforcement and intelligence officials spied on his campaign to undermine his electoral chances. Last year, he called it Spygate.

The decision to use Ms. Turk in the operation aimed at a presidential campaign official shows the level of alarm inside the F.B.I. during a frantic period when the bureau was trying to determine the scope of Russia’s attempts to disrupt the 2016 election, but could also give ammunition to Mr. Trump and his allies for their spying claims.
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Ms. Turk went to London to help oversee the politically sensitive operation, working alongside a longtime informant, the Cambridge professor Stefan A. Halper. The move was a sign that the bureau wanted in place a trained investigator for a layer of oversight, as well as someone who could gather information for or serve as a credible witness in any potential prosecution that emerged from the case.

A spokesman for the F.B.I. declined to comment, as did a lawyer for Mr. Halper, Robert D. Luskin. Last year, Bill Priestap, then the bureau’s top counterintelligence agent who was deeply involved in the Russia inquiry, told Congress during a closed-door hearing that there was no F.B.I. conspiracy against Mr. Trump or his campaign.

The London operation yielded no fruitful information, but F.B.I. officials have called the bureau’s activities in the months before the election both legal and carefully considered under extraordinary circumstances. They are now under scrutiny as part of an investigation by Michael E. Horowitz, the Justice Department inspector general. He could make the results public in May or June, Attorney General William P. Barr has said. Some of the findings are likely to be classified.

It is unclear whether Mr. Horowitz will find fault with the F.B.I.’s decision to have Ms. Turk, whose real name is not publicly known, meet with Mr. Papadopoulos. Mr. Horowitz has focused among other things on the activities of Mr. Halper, who accompanied Ms. Turk in one of her meetings with Mr. Papadopoulos and also met with him and other campaign aides separately. The bureau might also have seen Ms. Turk’s role as essential for protecting Mr. Halper’s identity as an informant if prosecutors ever needed court testimony about their activities.

Mr. Barr reignited the controversy last month when he told Congress, “I think spying on a political campaign is a big deal.” He backed off the charged declaration later in the same hearing, saying: “I think spying did occur. The question is whether it was adequately predicated. And I’m not suggesting that it wasn’t adequately predicated. But I need to explore that.”

Mr. Barr again defended his use of the term “spying” at a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing on Wednesday, saying he wanted to know more about the F.B.I.’s investigative efforts during 2016 and explained that the early inquiry most likely went beyond the use of an informant and a court-authorized wiretap of a former Trump campaign adviser, Carter Page, who had interacted with a Russian intelligence officer.

“Many people seem to assume that the only intelligence collection that occurred was a single confidential informant” and the warrant to surveil Mr. Page, Mr. Barr said. “I would like to find out whether that is in fact true. It strikes me as a fairly anemic effort if that was the counterintelligence effort designed to stop the threat as it’s being represented.”

This account was described in interviews with people familiar with the F.B.I. activities of Mr. Halper, Ms. Turk and the inspector general’s investigation. They spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss the subjects of a continuing inquiry.

As part of Mr. Horowitz’s investigation, his office has examined Mr. Halper’s past work as an F.B.I. informant and asked witnesses about whether agents had adequate control of Mr. Halper’s activities, people familiar with the inquiry have said.

While in London in 2016, Ms. Turk exchanged emails with Mr. Papadopoulos, saying meeting him had been the “highlight of my trip,” according to messages provided by Mr. Papadopoulos.

“I am excited about what the future holds for us :),” she wrote.

Weeks before Mr. Papadopoulos met with Ms. Turk and Mr. Halper, the F.B.I. had opened its investigation into the Russia effort — based largely on information that Mr. Papadopoulos had relayed to an Australian diplomat about a Russian offer to help the Trump campaign by releasing thousands of hacked Democratic emails.

The F.B.I. received the information from the Australian government on July 26, 2016, the special counsel’s report said, and the bureau code-named its investigation Crossfire Hurricane.

Investigators scrambled to determine whether Mr. Papadopoulos had any Russian contacts while deciding to scrutinize three additional Trump campaign aides who had concerning ties to Russia: Paul Manafort, its chairman; Michael T. Flynn, who went on to be the president’s first national security adviser; and Mr. Page.

Secrecy was paramount for the F.B.I. officials because of the sensitivities of investigating campaign advisers during a presidential race. Had the investigation into Trump advisers’ contacts with Russia become public, it could have devastated the Trump campaign. And top bureau officials were enduring fresh attacks over their handling of the Hillary Clinton email investigation.

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Mueller Report Shows Depth of Connections Between Trump Campaign and Russians

Donald J. Trump and 18 of his associates had at least 140 contacts with Russian nationals and WikiLeaks, or their intermediaries, during the 2016 campaign and presidential transition.


One of the agents involved in the Russia inquiry, a seasoned counterintelligence investigator out of New York, turned to Mr. Halper, whom he viewed as a reliable and trusted informant. They had a longstanding relationship; the agent had even spoken at an intelligence seminar that Mr. Halper taught at the University of Cambridge, discussing his work investigating a Russian espionage ring known as the illegals.

Mr. Halper had the right résumé for the task. He was a foreign policy expert who had worked for the Pentagon. He had been gathering information for the F.B.I. for about two decades and had good contacts in Chinese and Russian government circles that he could use to arrange meetings with high-ranking officials, according to a person briefed on Mr. Halper’s relationship with the F.B.I.

The F.B.I. instructed Mr. Halper to set up a meeting in London with Mr. Papadopoulos but gave him few details about the broader investigation, a person familiar with the episode said.

His job was to figure out the extent of any contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russia. Mr. Halper used his position as a respected academic to introduce himself to both Mr. Papadopoulos and Mr. Page, whom he also met with several times. He arranged a meeting with Mr. Papadopoulos in London to discuss a Mediterranean natural gas project, offering $3,000 for his time and a policy paper.

The F.B.I. also decided to send Ms. Turk to take part in the operation, people familiar with it said, and to pose as Mr. Halper’s assistant. For the F.B.I., placing such a sensitive undertaking in the hands of a trusted government investigator was essential.

Mr. Halper had the right résumé for the task. He was a foreign policy expert who had worked for the Pentagon. He had been gathering information for the F.B.I. for about two decades and had good contacts in Chinese and Russian government circles that he could use to arrange meetings with high-ranking officials, according to a person briefed on Mr. Halper’s relationship with the F.B.I.

The F.B.I. instructed Mr. Halper to set up a meeting in London with Mr. Papadopoulos but gave him few details about the broader investigation, a person familiar with the episode said.

His job was to figure out the extent of any contacts between Trump campaign advisers and Russia. Mr. Halper used his position as a respected academic to introduce himself to both Mr. Papadopoulos and Mr. Page, whom he also met with several times. He arranged a meeting with Mr. Papadopoulos in London to discuss a Mediterranean natural gas project, offering $3,000 for his time and a policy paper.

The F.B.I. also decided to send Ms. Turk to take part in the operation, people familiar with it said, and to pose as Mr. Halper’s assistant. For the F.B.I., placing such a sensitive undertaking in the hands of a trusted government investigator was essential.
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#28806 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 04 May 2019, 00:05

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#28807 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 04 May 2019, 01:45

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#28808 Post by kuka hemmetti » 04 May 2019, 01:52

demujen pitäs ihan itun just nyt lopettaa toi muellerin raportista ja sen jatko osista mouhoaminen koska sen pelin ne on jo hävinneet eikä se enään kiinosta ketään koska TOTAL AND COMPLETE EXONERATION ja jos ei tule mitään arvaamatonta sokkia talouteen niin ne ei pääse kunnolla edes omia ideoitaan myymään koska näyttää ihan mahdolliselta et trumpin holtiton velkaelvytys suhdannehuipussa saattaa toimia ens pressan vaalehin saakka koska just nyt 1 kertaa 25 vuoteen tai jotain on vähiten ansaitsevien tulot ja työllisyys nousussa tän vuoden 1 neljänneksen tietojen mukaan ja ne äänestää kyllä trumppia
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#28809 Post by kuka hemmetti » 04 May 2019, 01:53

just nyt: trumpin toisen kauden osakkeet helvetin kovassa nousussa
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#28810 Post by Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies » 04 May 2019, 01:56

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just nyt: trumpin toisen kauden osakkeet helvetin kovassa nousussa
Ja paskan vitut, koko ajan se on ollut suosikki.
Kellä kutiseva reikä illalla, sillä haiseva sormi aamulla.

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#28811 Post by kuka hemmetti » 04 May 2019, 02:00

make no mistake: kukaan ei koskaan ole väittänyt etteikö lisärahan kaataminen talouteen kasvattais sitä, nyt pitää katsoa pitääkö paikkansa se väite että veronalennukset rahoittavat itsensä.

,mut no
tähänhän nyt on kauheen helppo vastata.
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#28812 Post by kuka hemmetti » 04 May 2019, 02:01

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies wrote:
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kuka vittu wrote:
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just nyt: trumpin toisen kauden osakkeet helvetin kovassa nousussa
Ja paskan vitut, koko ajan se on ollut suosikki.
puhuin vaan omien melipiteideni puolesta :dontknow:
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#28813 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 04 May 2019, 02:15

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