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Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 17:08
by eh
Kai tän ois voinut Trumpin presidenttikausiseurantaankin laittaa, mutta koska kyseessä on vastenmielenkiintoinen ilmiö muutenkin, päätin tehdä ihan oman ketjun.
Dale Beran wrote:How did we get here? What is 4chan exactly? And how did a website about anime become the avant garde of the far right? Mixed up with fascist movements, international intrigue, and Trump iconography? How do we interpret it all?

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As someone who has witnessed 4chan grow from a group of adolescent boys who could fit into a single room at my local anime convention to a worldwide coalition of right wing extremists (which is still somehow also a message board about anime), I feel I have some obligation to explain.

This essay is an attempt to untangle the threads of 4chan and the far right.
Pitkä juttu, mutta äärimmäisen mielenkiintoinen.
4chan defined itself by being insensitive to suffering in that way only people who have never really suffered can — that is to say, young people, mostly young men, protected by a cloak of anonymity. The accepted standard was a sort of libertarian “free speech” banner, in which isolated man-boys asserted their right to do or say anything no matter someone else’s feelings. This meant generally posting pornography, swastikas, racial slurs, and content that reveled in harm to other people.
4chan value system, like Trump’s ideology, is obsessed with masculine competition (and the subsequent humiliation when the competition is lost). Note the terms 4chan invented, now so popular among grade schoolers everywhere: “fail” and “win”, “alpha” males and “beta cucks”. This system is defined by its childlike innocence, that is to say, the inventor’s inexperience with any sort of “IRL” romantic interaction. And like Trump, since these men wear their insecurities on their sleeve, they fling these insults in wild rabid bursts at everyone else.

Trump the loser, the outsider, the hot mess, the pathetic joke, embodies this duality. Trump represents both the alpha and the beta. He is a successful person who, as the left often notes, is also the exact opposite — a grotesque loser, sensitive and prideful about his outsider status, ready at the drop of a hat to go on the attack, self-obsessed, selfish, abrogating, unquestioning of his own mansplaining and spreading, so insecure he must assault women. In other words, to paraphrase Truman Capote, he is someone with his nose pressed so hard up against the glass he looks ridiculous. And for this reason, (because he knows he is substanceless) he must constantly re-affirm his own ego. Or as Errol Morris put it, quoting Borges, he is a “labyrinth with no center”.

But, what the left doesn’t realize is, this is not a problem for Trump’s supporters, rather, the reason why they support him.

Trump supporters voted for the con-man, the labyrinth with no center, because the labyrinth with no center is how they feel, how they feel the world works around them. A labyrinth with no center is a perfect description of their mother’s basement with a terminal to an endless array of escapist fantasy worlds.

Trump’s bizarre, inconstant, incompetent, embarrassing, ridiculous behavior — what the left (naturally) perceives as his weaknesses — are to his supporters his strengths.

In other words, Trump is 4chan.

Trump is steering into the skid embodied.

Trump is Pepe.

Trump is loserdom embraced.

Trump is the loser who has won, the pathetic little frog on the big strong body.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 17:39
by juomista jopa aamuviiteen
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Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 17:42
by Mörkyli
0xacab wrote:Image
Tähän toki aina hyvä vedota. Huumoria kato.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 17:52
by kohta alkavat aikamoiset setit
laasasen hena taitaa lukea 4chan meininkejä aika tiuhaan :P

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 17:54
by An Poc Ar Buile
ei kiinnosta: 4chan

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 18:03
by juomista jopa aamuviiteen
Nahkis 2.0 wrote:
0xacab wrote:Image
Tähän toki aina hyvä vedota. Huumoria kato.
Ei oo huumoria vaan vakavaa liiketoimintaa [-X

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 18 Feb 2017, 20:12
by Tomhet
Pemp is Trupe.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 20:51
by lelunatsit pärjää arjalaiselle
Aika ristiriitainen kuva tuossa 4chan-käyttäjän psykologiasta, toisaalta elävät labyrintissa jossa ei ole center ja ovat muutenkin losers, toisaalta ei ole ollut sufferingia tarpeeksi.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 20:52
by Piss Pisstopherson
gnu/turd wrote:ei kiinnosta: 4chan

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 20:54
by lelunatsit pärjää arjalaiselle
suvakkeja ja seksileluja wrote:
gnu/turd wrote:ei kiinnosta: 4chan
No tätä mieltä olen kyllä oikeastaan.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 21:11
by Sulo Kokki
Eikai tuo meininki ole 4chaniin rajoittunut enää pitkiin aikoihin, tai onko varsinaisesti koskaan.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 21:14
by Mörkyli
Sulo Kokki wrote:Eikai tuo meininki ole 4chaniin rajoittunut enää pitkiin aikoihin, tai onko varsinaisesti koskaan.
Jotkut redditit kanssa aika.. ööh..

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 19 Feb 2017, 21:16
by money talks
mielenkiintoinen kirjoitus ja onhan täällä piffilläkin tarjoiltu noiden tyylistä häirintämeininkiä väärää sukupuolta edustaville.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 01:20
by Mopy Dick
Manspleinaus mainittu ja mieslapset.

Re: Anime, Habbo Hotel, Gamergate, Pepe, Trump

Posted: 20 Feb 2017, 01:54
by Tomhet
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