Donald Trumpin ja MAGA-kultin myöhempien edesottamusten seurantatopik

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Olipas kiva tiekkari Bidenilla. Sekoilua: ei ollut. Pelkkään pönötykseenkään ei tyydytty, vaan jäätiin rupattelemaan lopussa ja kesken toimittajien kysymysten lähti takki pois.

Minimaaliset odotukset, minimaaliset saavutukset, kommentoitiin A-Studiossa, mutta merkittävä kohtaaminen.

Koskahan Mar-a-Lagossa ukko herää huutamaan että HÄNEN Putin-tapaaminen oli ainakin tuhasata kertaa merkittävämpi!

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Ei se että on sukua Osama Bin Ladenille kenestäkään idioottia tee mutta Trump fanitus kyllä.

[Jesse Python]

Ei se että on sukua Osama Bin Ladenille kenestäkään idioottia tee mutta Trump fanitus kyllä.

Eiks Ladenin Binit oo Saudi-arabian eliittiä, niitähän vituttaa Bidenin voitto

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Kyllähän terrorismi ja amerikkalaisten tappaminen maistuu jos vaan jeesus-trump käskee

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MAGA-hommat edelleen stronk:

Conservative Christians jeer ‘traitor’ Pence for refusing to overturn election

Mike Pence, the former US vice-president, has been heckled as a “traitor” for his refusal to overturn last year’s election result during a speech to a gathering of religious conservatives.

Pence, who is widely seen as laying the groundwork for a White House run in 2024, had entered an auditorium in Orlando, Florida to a standing ovation on Friday. But a small group began shouted abuse including “traitor!” as he began a 28-minute speech. The dissenters were quickly escorted out by police.

Earlier, in a corridor outside the ballroom, an attendee named Rick Hurley, wearing a red “Make America great again” cap, also vented his frustration over Pence’s role in certifying Donald Trump’s defeat on 6 January amid false claims of voter fraud.

“We need to start fighting!” Hurley shouted at anyone who would listen. “We need to stop being so damned nice. What the hell’s going on? Why is Pence coming today? Donald Trump has his pen in his back still.”

Before being taken aside by police, he also remarked: “I’m ready to fight. I’m going to boo him off stage. I’ll take the bullet. I’ll walk to the front of the stage and look him in the eye and and say, ‘What are you doing here?’

In an interview, Hurley said he had been at the US Capitol on 6 January. “I want to know why Pence is here today.” he said. “He stabbed Donald Trump in the back and took the coins like Judas.”

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But Ralph Reed, organiser of the Faith & Freedom Coalition’s annual Road to Majority conference, was at pains to give Pence a warm welcome and honor him as stalwart of the Christian conservative movement.

And the ex-vice president, who earlier this month admitted that he and his former boss may never “see eye to eye” on the events of 6 January, when some Trump supporters called for him to be hanged, did not dwell on that disagreement during his remarks.

He instead told the gathering: “Thank you for the privilege of serving as your vice-president with Donald Trump. It was the greatest honor of my life.”

Pence made only a passing reference to the deadly insurrection that implied an equivalence with racial justice protests and Joe Biden’s policies: “We’ve all been through a lot over the past year: a global pandemic, civil unrest, a divisive election, a tragic day in our nation’s Capitol, and a new administration intent on transforming our country.”

Since leaving office, Pence has bought a house in Indiana, announced plans for a podcast and signed a two-book deal for his memoir. Despite the anger of some Trump supporters, he is seen as a potential candidate for the Republican nomination for president in 2024.

His conference speech on Friday duly listed the Trump administration’s achievements – from supreme court appointments to coronavirus vaccines – and took aim at Biden for rapidly unravelling its legacy with “a tidal wave of leftwing policies”.

Pence quipped: “Democrats have been so busy advancing their liberal agenda, sometimes I feel like the left hand doesn’t know what the far left hand is doing.”

He went on to rail against “an explosion” of runaway spending, proposed tax increases, plans to cut military funding and the cancellation of construction on Trump’s signature border wall.

“Literally in five months, they turned the most secure border in the world into the worst border crisis in American history,” Pence said to applause. “You know, when I was vice-president, I visited our southern border. And yes, it’s past time for our current vice-president to go to the border, put our policies back into effect and end the Biden border crisis today.”

He also threw out false assertions to go after “culture war” targets currently in vogue in conservative media including “cancel culture” and “defund the police”.

Among them was critical race theory which, developed by academics starting in the 1970s, examines how racism embedded in law and institutions creates an uneven playing field for people of color in America. Numerous Republican controlled states have moved to ban it from being taught in schools.

Pence crudely misrepresented the intellectual tool by stating: “Instead of teaching all of our children to be proud of their country, critical race theory teaches children as young as kindergarten to be ashamed of their skin color. Critical race theory is racism, pure and simple – and it should be rejected by every American of every race.”

“The truth is it’s past time for America to discard the left wing reflex to see systemic racism across our nation. As my friend Senator Tim Scott says so well, America is not a racist country – America is the most just, noble and inclusive nation ever to exist on the face of the earth.”

In another wildly contentious claim, Pence said: “The United States military is the greatest force for good the world has ever known.”

Pence closed a morning session that included Republican senators Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and Rick Scott, all potential rivals for the 2024 nomination. Trump himself has not yet declared whether he will run or whether Pence would again be his running mate.

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Ihme jätkä kun ei aborttia halua vaahdota ääneen.

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ihme jätkät postaa biden-kamaa trump-topikkiin. alkaavituttaa

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Kultilla taas vaikeita aikoja, kun dolan promoaa joulukuista kiertuettaan Bill O'Reillyn kanssa, kun eihän elokuussa virkaan palautettu resitentti voi mitään puhekiertueita pitää.

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Kultilla taas vaikeita aikoja, kun dolan promoaa joulukuista kiertuettaan Bill O'Reillyn kanssa, kun eihän elokuussa virkaan palautettu resitentti voi mitään puhekiertueita pitää.

Kuka sä oot sanomaan mitä toisen kerran tullut presidentti voi tai ei voi tehdä

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Kultilla taas vaikeita aikoja, kun dolan promoaa joulukuista kiertuettaan Bill O'Reillyn kanssa, kun eihän elokuussa virkaan palautettu resitentti voi mitään puhekiertueita pitää.

Kuka sä oot sanomaan mitä toisen kerran tullut presidentti voi tai ei voi tehdä

Mielenkiintonen harhaisuuden rajanveto kun samalla on sitä mieltä että Trump voi palata epätavallisesti valtaan mutta ei voi valtaanpaluun jälkeen enää toimia epätavallisella tavalla koska aikaisempi käytäntö tai jotain

[Lana Ctrl-Alt-Del Rey]

Kultilla taas vaikeita aikoja, kun dolan promoaa joulukuista kiertuettaan Bill O'Reillyn kanssa, kun eihän elokuussa virkaan palautettu resitentti voi mitään puhekiertueita pitää.

Kuka sä oot sanomaan mitä toisen kerran tullut presidentti voi tai ei voi tehdä

en mä, vaan noi maganautit ite sanoo.

[Jesse Python]

Kultilla taas vaikeita aikoja, kun dolan promoaa joulukuista kiertuettaan Bill O'Reillyn kanssa, kun eihän elokuussa virkaan palautettu resitentti voi mitään puhekiertueita pitää.

Kuka sä oot sanomaan mitä toisen kerran tullut presidentti voi tai ei voi tehdä

en mä, vaan noi maganautit ite sanoo.

Ne ei varmaan muista kuinka perkeleen monta rallyä Trump piti, touhu alkoi välittömästi valinnan jälkeen.

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Rudy ei sit saa enää leikkiä lakimiestä Nykissä.

Rudy Giuliani suspended from practicing law in New York state

(CNN)Rudy Giuliani, the former personal lawyer for former President Donald Trump who once held one of the legal profession's most prestigious jobs, was suspended Thursday from practicing law in New York state by an appellate court that found he made "demonstrably false and misleading statements" about the 2020 election.

In a ruling released following disciplinary proceedings, the court concluded that "there is uncontroverted evidence" that Giuliani, the former Manhattan US attorney, "communicated demonstrably false and misleading statements to courts, lawmakers and the public at large in his capacity as lawyer for former President Donald J. Trump and the Trump campaign in connection with Trump's failed effort at reelection in 2020."

Giuliani's "conduct immediately threatens the public interest and warrants interim suspension from the practice of law," the court wrote.

The suspension of his law license marks a precipitous fall for the former New York City mayor, once considered an accomplished and formidable force in legal circles. In recent years, however, Giuliani's reputation has suffered as he has come under criminal investigation by the office he used to lead, the Manhattan US attorney's office, for possible illegal lobbying. He has denied wrongdoing.

Giuliani said later Thursday that he was "not very happy" with the court's decision and argued that his comments were not a threat to the public.

"I made all those statements -- not a single one of them led to a protest, a riot, an incident, an anything,"

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he said in an interview with Newsmax. "Obviously, those statements do not have the impact of creating danger."

Giuliani's lawyers, John Leventhal and Barry Kamins, said in a statement earlier Thursday that they're "disappointed with the Appellate Division, First Department's decision suspending Mayor Giuliani prior to being afforded a hearing on the issues that are alleged. This is unprecedented as we believe that our client does not pose a present danger to the public interest. We believe that once the issues are fully explored at a hearing Mr. Giuliani will be reinstated as a valued member of the legal profession that he has served so well in his many capacities for so many years."

CNN senior legal analyst Elie Honig said suspensions such as these are unusual.

"You're a lawyer, your job is to zealously represent your client. A lot of times your client maybe has done wrong, but what you cannot do as a lawyer is just lie," Honig said on CNN's "At This Hour." "This does not happen every day by any stretch. This is a very rare thing and a very extreme thing for the court to do."


Giuliani had been set to appear in court in DC on Thursday afternoon for proceedings in a defamation lawsuit from the vote management company Dominion Voting Systems, which is suing him and others for statements they made alleging election fraud. He didn't attend the hearing.

In its ruling, the New York appellate court wrote of Giuliani that his "false statements were made to improperly bolster respondent's narrative that due to widespread voter fraud, victory in the 2020 United States presidential election was stolen from his client."

The court said it relied on Giuliani's statements at press conferences, state legislative hearings and on TV appearances, radio broadcasts and podcasts, as well as in one court appearance.

In certain cases, according to the court's ruling, Giuliani acknowledged that the statements he made were untrue, but claimed he didn't knowingly make a false statement. Regarding absentee ballots in Pennsylvania, for example, Giuliani "claims that he relied on some unidentified member of his 'team' who 'inadvertently' took the information from the Pennsylvania website, which had the information mistakenly listed," the court wrote, citing Giuliani's affidavit.

The court concluded, however: "There is simply no proof to support this explanation."

In other cases, the court said Giuliani failed to provide any source at all for statements he made, such as assertions concerning the number of dead people he alleged voted in Georgia in the 2020 election, which he said at various times ranged from 800 to 6,000.

The court said it found an interim suspension to be necessary because Giuliani's behavior demonstrated an "immediate threat to the public."

"We find that there is evidence of continuing misconduct, the underlying offense is incredibly serious, and the uncontroverted misconduct in itself will likely result in substantial permanent sanctions at the conclusion of these disciplinary proceedings," the court wrote.

Ronald Minkoff, an attorney who frequently defends lawyers with cases before the Attorney Grievance Committee, which petitioned for Giuliani's suspension, said the decision to give Giuliani an interim suspension so quickly is atypical.

"In a case this difficult, this is pretty quick turnaround, especially considering the amount of complaints they had to evaluate," Minkoff said. "He still has the right to a hearing. But that will take some time before that happens. He's got a long process ahead before he'll be able to practice again."
Minkoff represents attorneys who filed a complaint against Giuliani in January, two weeks after the insurrection.

"This is about the integrity of the bar, and that's really the issue here. It's really unfortunate that somebody of Rudy Giuliani's stature should have this happen to them. But his actions and the evidence shows that his actions warranted this."

Though Giuliani told the court that he would "exercise personal discipline" and refrain from making further statements about the election in his capacity as a lawyer, according to the ruling, the court found that he had continued to make false statements since the submission of the application for suspension of his license.

"The seriousness of respondent's uncontroverted misconduct cannot be overstated," the court concluded. "This country is being torn apart by continued attacks on the legitimacy of the 2020 election and of our current president, Joseph R. Biden. The hallmark of our democracy is predicated on free and fair elections. False statements intended to foment a loss of confidence in our elections and resulting loss of confidence in government generally damage the proper functioning of a free society."

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