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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 04:12
by samelime
Tšernivtsin alueella huhutaan miehittäjien ampuvan palvelusikäisiä miehiä monissa kylissä heikentääkseen partisaaniliikkeen muodostumisen mahdollisuutta.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 04:12
by Hra Mezola
Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 02:54
Edwin Lyman, director of nuclear power safety at the union of concerned scientists in Washington, DC wrote:I shouldn't have to say that fire is one of the most dangerous events at a #nuclear plant and is associated with a high risk of core damage.

Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant in Ukraine is on fire, says mayor of local town https://t.co/RGE4Kek7vx via @nationalpost
Saatanan vittu...

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 04:29
by Laku Setä
saisko parin lauseen tiivistyksen tän päivän tapahtumista.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 04:29
by Mureke Eddie
Venäläiset tajus himmata ainakin hetkeksi
Andrey Tuz, spokesman for the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant, has said shelling has stopped for the time being, but the situation is extremely uncertain.

Speaking to the BBC Russian Service, he said:
They bombed everything they could, including blocks and everything else. Now the information is being clarified, it’s hard to say everything. [To the station] a white car, representatives of the Russian military, has left. It’s flashing with its headlights. Now it’s being determined whether they will be approached for negotiations, or how to proceed further.”
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https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/ ... n-invasion

Authorities at the Zaporizhzhia nuclear power plant say the facility is secured and “nuclear safety is now guaranteed” after Russian military shelling starts fire, Agence France-Presse reports.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 04:47
by pigra senlaborulo
guardian
Zelenskiy accuses Russia of 'nuclear terrorism', repeating Chernobyl

Ukraine’s president Volodymyr Zelenskiy has made another appeal to Europe for help following the attack on Ukraine’s nuclear plant.
Europe must wake up now. The largest nuclear station in Europe is on fire. Right now Russian tanks are shelling nuclear units. Those are the tank that have thermal vision, so they know where they are shelling. They prepared for it.

I address all Ukrainians and all Europeans to all people who know the word Chernobyl who know how much suffering and victims were caused by the explosion at the nuclear station. It was a global disaster. Hundreds of thousands of people fought against its consequences. Tens of thousands of people were evacuated.

Russia wants to repeat it but six times harder.

Europeans, please, wake up. Tell your politicians, Russian troops are shelling Zaporizhia nuclear power station, the city of Enerhodar. There are 6 energy unit. Six. One unit exploded in Chernobyl.

We warn everyone that not a single nation every shelled nuclear power stations. For the first time in the history of humankind, the terrorist state commits nuclear terrorism.

Russian propagandists threatened to cover the world with nuclear ashes. Now it’s not a threat. It’s a reality. We don’t know how the fire at the station will end, when an explosion will happen, god willing, it won’t happen. Our guys always kept the station in safety, so there were not provocations, mines, and then blackmail the whole world with a nuclear disaster.

We must stop Russian troops. Tell your politicians: Ukraine is 15 nuclear units. If there will be an explosion, it will the end to all of us, the end of Europe, the evacuation of Europe. Only immediate action of Europe can stop Russian troops and prevent the death of Europe from the disaster at a nuclear station.”

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 05:22
by Hra Mezola
Kuinka sekaisin/lammas tarttee olla että tykittää käskystä ydinvoimalaa.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 05:25
by Tölkky
Hra Mezola wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 05:22
Kuinka sekaisin/lammas tarttee olla että tykittää käskystä ydinvoimalaa.
Ei helvetin helvetti

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 05:41
by pigra senlaborulo
guardian
Ukrainian emergency services are saying Russian troops are preventing them from extinguishing a fire that continues to burn at a nuclear power plant after it was struck by shelling.

In an update published to its official Telegram account at 4am local time, the State Emergency Services said:

The occupiers are not allow the SES units [Ukrainian public rescue teams] to start eliminating the consequences of the fire.”

The agency said that one of the buildings of the plant’s training complex “continues to burn”, adding that “the fire covered 3, 4, 5 floors of a five-storey building.”

Corroborating an early analysis from the Guardian’s diplomatic editor, Julian Borger, reporter Donna Lu brings us another perspective from Tony Irwin, an honorary associate professor at the Australian National University.

According to Iwin, the chances of explosion, nuclear meltdown or radioactive release from the Zaporizhzhya power plant are low.

The Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station, the largest in Europe, contains six 950 megawatt pressurised water nuclear (PWR) reactors.

Irwin said the PWR reactors are “a lot safer” than the reactors at Chernobyl, and did not appear to be damaged yet. The reactors have large concrete contaminants and built-in fire protection systems, he said, adding:

“Obviously, it’s not a good idea if you start shooting massive missiles at reactors.

The PWR type is a much safer sort of reactor, because it’s a two-circuit design reactor. The water that keeps the reactor cool is on a separate circuit to the second one, which actually supplies the power to the turbine and the outside.

The chance of a [radioactive] release from this sort of reactor is a lot lower.

These reactors have back-up emergency cooling systems as well. In addition to the normal reactor cooling, they got a passive system, they’ve got high pressure injection systems, they’ve got low-pressure injection systems.

The passive cooling systems work in the absence of electricity supply or diesel generators, Irwin said.

“Ultimately if they disabled all the outside supplies [of electricity] and all the diesel generators, eventually there won’t be enough cooling and you’ll melt the core. But I think we’re a long way off from that at the moment.

Irwin, who operated nuclear power plants in the UK for three decades, is a former manager of the open-pool Australian lightwater (OPAL) reactor, Australia’s only nuclear reactor.

A shutdown of the Zaporizhzhya plant would lead to a “severe loss of power in Ukraine”, he said.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 05:54
by pigra senlaborulo
Meanwhile, US Energy Secretary Jennifer Granholm has provided more reassurance surrounding the reactors at Ukraine’s Zaporizhzhia nuclear power station, confirming she had spoken with Ukraine’s energy minister, Herman Galushchenko.

In an update posted to Twitter, Granholm said:

We have seen no elevated radiation readings near the facility.

The plant’s reactors are protected by robust containment structures and reactors are being safely shut down.”

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 06:07
by pigra senlaborulo

Ukrainian emergency services have confirmed rescue teams are currently on the site of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear power plant to extinguish the fire which started earlier in the morning in the training building.

Earlier, the agency said Russian troops has prevented emergency teams from attending to the blaze.

However, in an update published to its official Telegram account just after 5.30am local time, the service said as of 5.20am, SES units had been deployed to put out the fire in the training building.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 06:12
by Timo Jutilan maksa
Kaikkea sitä saakin sitten aamulla ensimmäisenä lukea :|

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 06:48
by pigra senlaborulo
Ukrainian emergency services have confirmed a fire in the training building of the Zaporizhzhya nuclear plant has been extinguished after a blaze burned for at least four hours throughout early Friday morning.

No casualties have so far been reported.

An update published to the State Emergency Services official Telegram account reads:

At 06:20 the fire in the training building of Zaporizhzhya NPP in Energodar was extinguished. There are no victims.”

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 06:57
by promoottori naurahtaa
Tommi Läntisen kyrpä wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 05:25
Hra Mezola wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 05:22
Kuinka sekaisin/lammas tarttee olla että tykittää käskystä ydinvoimalaa.
Ei helvetin helvetti
ymmärsin, etteivät sitä voimalarakennusta olleet pommittaneet, vaan jotain viereisiä rakennuksia. Toki ihan älytöntä silti.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 07:01
by Liskomies


Ilmeisesti tässä roudataan tavaraa Venäläistä kalustoa Tyynenmeren päädystä kohti Ukrainaa. Aikamoisen vanhankin näköistä tavaraa mukana.

Eli ei ilmeisesti kovin hyvin mene tällä hetkellä.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022

Posted: 04 Mar 2022, 07:14
by promoottori naurahtaa
Damar wrote:
04 Mar 2022, 07:01


Ilmeisesti tässä roudataan tavaraa Venäläistä kalustoa Tyynenmeren päädystä kohti Ukrainaa. Aikamoisen vanhankin näköistä tavaraa mukana.

Eli ei ilmeisesti kovin hyvin mene tällä hetkellä.
vanhakin tavara voi olla ihan käyttökelpoista, esim. itse kun kävin intin 90-luvun alussa, niin minut koulutettiin vuonna 1963 valmistetulle Sergei ilmatorjuntatykille, joihin ainakin silloin Suomen ilmapuolustus pitkälti perustui. En tiedä, mitä noille tuhansille sergeille nykyään kuuluu ja ovatko edelleen jollain tasolla varusmieskoulutuksessa mukana. Toki tuolloinkin oli ihan selvää, että jos pitää oikeasti osua johonkin lähestyvään maaliin tuolla vempeleellä, elinajanodote on n. 10 sekuntia.