Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Butusov postasi GoPro-kuvaa Kurskin valtauksesta. Ukot juoksentelee ja ajelee ympäriinsä ilman vastarintaa ja kaappaa itselleen venäläisen tankin, sit ne ajelee sillä.
Näköjään ne vie lopussa tankin Ukrainan puolelle, siitä on merkkinä lohikäärmeen hampaat.
Näköjään ne vie lopussa tankin Ukrainan puolelle, siitä on merkkinä lohikäärmeen hampaat.
Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Chris O:lla ketju siitä, että Venäjän netissä etsitään kiireisesti kuopan kaivajia Kurskiin. Kaikki kelpaa, eläkeläiset, terveysvaivaiset, opiskelijat ja ex-vangit. "Vaaratonta työtä" tarjolla kuulemma
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Numerous adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's equivalent of eBay, seeking workers to dig trenches in the Kursk region. It's likely that this is related to the rapid construction of a trench network located well behind the current front line.
The Russians are racing to dig a trench network in an arc about 45 km from the border. They likely intend to convert the battle from a dynamic to a positional one, which would be harder for Ukraine to overcome.
The Avito adverts typically ask for "workers [who are] urgently required in the Kursk region for the construction of fortification structures (trenches, pillboxes, anti-tank structures)." They offer between 5,000–7,000 rubles per shift ($56–78). No experience is required.
The advertisers, who are construction firms around Russia, generally offer a salary of between 150,000-210,000 rubles per month ($1,676–$2,346). One advert for a crawler operator indicates that the city of Kursk itself is being fortified as the "second line of defence".
The fortification work is clearly being driven at a high pace, as its schedule is described as being "round the clock." Most adverts do not specify the number of workers needed, though one says it is looking for "50–100 people" to dig trenches in Kursk.
The advertisers are evidently trying to find anyone they can. One specifies that it will accept people over 45, pensioners, students, people with health problems, ex-convicts and non-Russians. Another says that if you "bring a friend" you will be given 10,000 rubles ($112).
As perks, they offer clothing, personal protective equipment, transportation, "
Accommodation!", "
Nutrition!". (But no drinking is allowed on site.) One offers a "bulletproof vest at the expense of the organisation"; another promises "body armour + radio".
One advert emphasises that the work will be "outside the combat zone" and that "there is no danger at work." (This is not strictly true, as the Ukrainians have repeatedly hit Russian excavators with drones and missiles.)
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Numerous adverts have appeared on Avito, Russia's equivalent of eBay, seeking workers to dig trenches in the Kursk region. It's likely that this is related to the rapid construction of a trench network located well behind the current front line.

The Russians are racing to dig a trench network in an arc about 45 km from the border. They likely intend to convert the battle from a dynamic to a positional one, which would be harder for Ukraine to overcome.
The Avito adverts typically ask for "workers [who are] urgently required in the Kursk region for the construction of fortification structures (trenches, pillboxes, anti-tank structures)." They offer between 5,000–7,000 rubles per shift ($56–78). No experience is required.
The advertisers, who are construction firms around Russia, generally offer a salary of between 150,000-210,000 rubles per month ($1,676–$2,346). One advert for a crawler operator indicates that the city of Kursk itself is being fortified as the "second line of defence".
The fortification work is clearly being driven at a high pace, as its schedule is described as being "round the clock." Most adverts do not specify the number of workers needed, though one says it is looking for "50–100 people" to dig trenches in Kursk.
The advertisers are evidently trying to find anyone they can. One specifies that it will accept people over 45, pensioners, students, people with health problems, ex-convicts and non-Russians. Another says that if you "bring a friend" you will be given 10,000 rubles ($112).
As perks, they offer clothing, personal protective equipment, transportation, "
Accommodation!", "
Nutrition!". (But no drinking is allowed on site.) One offers a "bulletproof vest at the expense of the organisation"; another promises "body armour + radio".One advert emphasises that the work will be "outside the combat zone" and that "there is no danger at work." (This is not strictly true, as the Ukrainians have repeatedly hit Russian excavators with drones and missiles.)
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Tämä kertoo ehkä siitä että sotilaita ei linnoitustöihin riitä. Tosin onhan venäjä teettänyt aiemminkin siviilifirmoilla näitä. Jos henkilöstötilanne olisi hyvä olisi siellä pioneerit ja pioneerikoulutettavat näitä väkertämässä.
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Linnoitushommat voi olla ihan järkevää jättää ihan suosiolla siviili- tai puolisiviiliorganisaatioille vaikka pioneereista ei olisikaan pulaa, varsinkin kun touhutaan vähän etäämpänä etulinjasta. Näin pioneerit erityiskoulutuksineen jää käytettäväksi suluttamiseen, raivailuun, ylimenohommiin ja vastaaviin erityisiin pioneeripuuhiin eivätkä jää sidotuksi ojankaivuuseen tai betonimyllyn pyörittelyynZelenskyin teräksiset boltsit wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024, 10:34Tämä kertoo ehkä siitä että sotilaita ei linnoitustöihin riitä. Tosin onhan venäjä teettänyt aiemminkin siviilifirmoilla näitä. Jos henkilöstötilanne olisi hyvä olisi siellä pioneerit ja pioneerikoulutettavat näitä väkertämässä.
Toki vielä lisäksi se että varmasti noihin hommiin (ainakin paperilla) pystyville firmoille raha kelpaa ja projektit helppo myydä sotalaitokselle em. perusteilla
Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Nythän ex-kenraalillahan on kätevästi diplomaattipassi ettei tartte liikaa murehtia tälläisistä...
Asiasta toiseen. Ilmeisesti kasa asepalveluksesta kieltäytyneitä on raahattu väkisin Kurskin rintamalle. Tämä on taas näitä "Pena sen siinä keksi, veti ässän hihasta" ratkaisuja jotka ei kerta kaikkiaan mitenkään voi olla toimimatta, eiks vaan?
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Hundreds of Russians who have refused to fight for various reasons – age, sickness, mental health – are reported to have been taken from a military base where they were being held and flown to Kursk, where they will likely be used in efforts to repel Ukraine's incursion.
The husband of one woman called her and told her that he and his companions "were just given assault rifles, changed into uniforms and sent to an unknown location. He says that about 20 servicemen managed to escape. No one was really looking for them."
Like many of the convict soldiers who were sent to Ukraine in 2023, it appears that the refuseniks have become 'ghost soldiers'
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Twitter-video saatteella "The year is 2024 and NATO equipped forces are distributing humanitarian aid in Russian towns."
Spoiler:
Чтобы сапог чужого солдата никогда не ступил на землю России, Курскую область исключили из состава РФ задним числом.

Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Venäjän eliitti on hermoissaan eikä tiedä mitä Tsaari seuraavaksi tekee. Kaikki tietävät vain sen, että "erikoisoperaatio" venähti (jälleen) ja Putin on sanonut, että mitään rauhanneuvotteluja: Ei tule.
(Eli tietyllä logiikalla Ukraina veti sotaan "Trump-proofit" jos uskotaan Trumpin sanaa, että jos Venäjä ei suostu neuvottelemaan niin portit aukeaa kaikelle aseavulle. Nythän Ukrainan olisi helppo pelata tätä korttia jos Trump tulee valtaan mitä Ukraina ei kuitenkaan varmasti toivo)
In the days that followed, the Russian Defense Ministry and pro-war bloggers reported that Ukraine was advancing farther into Russian territory. The latest reports indicate that the AFU has reached the village of Kromskiye Byki, which is 30 kilometers (19 miles) from the region’s border. On August 12, Kursk Governor Alexey Smirnov said that Ukrainian forces were in control of 28 Russian settlements and had pushed 12 kilometers (7.5 miles) into Russian territory along a 40-kilometer (25-mile) front.
After these reports, members of Russia’s political elite began closely following the news from Kursk, actively sending each other posts from pro-Kremlin “war correspondents,” a senator close to the Federation Council’s Defense Committee told Verstka. “The Defense Ministry says one thing, and we publicly relay that, but meanwhile we’re all reading the war correspondents who are tearing into [General Staff Chief Valery] Gerasimov and saying we weren’t even monitoring the situation in the [Kursk] region for the first two days,” he said. He continued:
It’s reached the point of absurdity: We don’t even know who destroyed whose convoy. By the looks of it, they destroyed ours [on August 8], and we destroyed theirs on August 11. But you can’t make heads or tails of it.
According to the senator, “the mood [among the authorities] has become very anxious.” At the same time, he said, the reported rise in the number of enlisting contract soldiers has been met with “cautious optimism” among his colleagues. In his view, the increase shows that “people want to defend the Motherland; they understand that the enemy is on their territory, and not only on the new territories.” (The increase is more likely due to the 1.9-million-ruble ($21,777) sign-up bonus the Defense Ministry began offering new contract soldiers in July.)
(Eli tietyllä logiikalla Ukraina veti sotaan "Trump-proofit" jos uskotaan Trumpin sanaa, että jos Venäjä ei suostu neuvottelemaan niin portit aukeaa kaikelle aseavulle. Nythän Ukrainan olisi helppo pelata tätä korttia jos Trump tulee valtaan mitä Ukraina ei kuitenkaan varmasti toivo)
In the days that followed, the Russian Defense Ministry and pro-war bloggers reported that Ukraine was advancing farther into Russian territory. The latest reports indicate that the AFU has reached the village of Kromskiye Byki, which is 30 kilometers (19 miles) from the region’s border. On August 12, Kursk Governor Alexey Smirnov said that Ukrainian forces were in control of 28 Russian settlements and had pushed 12 kilometers (7.5 miles) into Russian territory along a 40-kilometer (25-mile) front.
After these reports, members of Russia’s political elite began closely following the news from Kursk, actively sending each other posts from pro-Kremlin “war correspondents,” a senator close to the Federation Council’s Defense Committee told Verstka. “The Defense Ministry says one thing, and we publicly relay that, but meanwhile we’re all reading the war correspondents who are tearing into [General Staff Chief Valery] Gerasimov and saying we weren’t even monitoring the situation in the [Kursk] region for the first two days,” he said. He continued:
It’s reached the point of absurdity: We don’t even know who destroyed whose convoy. By the looks of it, they destroyed ours [on August 8], and we destroyed theirs on August 11. But you can’t make heads or tails of it.
According to the senator, “the mood [among the authorities] has become very anxious.” At the same time, he said, the reported rise in the number of enlisting contract soldiers has been met with “cautious optimism” among his colleagues. In his view, the increase shows that “people want to defend the Motherland; they understand that the enemy is on their territory, and not only on the new territories.” (The increase is more likely due to the 1.9-million-ruble ($21,777) sign-up bonus the Defense Ministry began offering new contract soldiers in July.)
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Saksa päivitti listaa siitä, mitä tavaraa vuoden vikalle neljänneksellä viedään Ukrainaan:
German MoD has published its own list of what is to be delivered to Ukraine by December 2024:
— 2 IRIS-T SLM SAM systems
— 4 IRIS-T SLS launchers
— 10 Cheetah SPAAGs
— 12 PzH 2000 SPGs
— 4 Zuzana 2 SPGs
— ? RCH 155 SPGs
— Drones and anti-drone systems
— ~30 Leopard 1A5 MBTs
— 400 MRAPs
— Logistical vehicles like trucks, tankers
— Various vehicles like off-road vehicles, pickups, minivans
— Assault rifles like MK 556
— Medical material
— 1 Field hospital
Myös jenkit ilmoittivat kertovansa apupaketeista seuraavien päivien aikana.
German MoD has published its own list of what is to be delivered to Ukraine by December 2024:
— 2 IRIS-T SLM SAM systems
— 4 IRIS-T SLS launchers
— 10 Cheetah SPAAGs
— 12 PzH 2000 SPGs
— 4 Zuzana 2 SPGs
— ? RCH 155 SPGs
— Drones and anti-drone systems
— ~30 Leopard 1A5 MBTs
— 400 MRAPs
— Logistical vehicles like trucks, tankers
— Various vehicles like off-road vehicles, pickups, minivans
— Assault rifles like MK 556
— Medical material
— 1 Field hospital
Myös jenkit ilmoittivat kertovansa apupaketeista seuraavien päivien aikana.
"Some people don't want you to say this, some people don't want you to say that, some people think if you mention some things they might happen. Some people are really fucking stupid." - George Carlin


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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Ukrainan erikoisjoukot väijyttävät Kurskissa lisävahvistuksia.
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Näköjään hromadske kanssa löytänyt paikalle Sudzhaan. Ei oo vielä enkkutekstejä mut yleensä ne laittaa piakkoin.
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Haastattelivat paikallisia siviilejä. Venäjän väkivaltakoneisto lähti livohkaan ja jätti paikalliset oman onnensa nojaan. Mielenkiintoista kuunnella tommosta rajaseudun venäjän ja ukrainan sekoitusta.
Edit; lisäsivät enkkutekstit
Haastattelivat paikallisia siviilejä. Venäjän väkivaltakoneisto lähti livohkaan ja jätti paikalliset oman onnensa nojaan. Mielenkiintoista kuunnella tommosta rajaseudun venäjän ja ukrainan sekoitusta.
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Evakuointikäsky annettu mutta armeijako ei evakuoinut?Jimi Ketipinor wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024, 18:17Venäjän väkivaltakoneisto lähti livohkaan ja jätti paikalliset oman onnensa nojaan.
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Eka sanoo, et ei sanottu evakuoinneista vaan et pysykää sisälläMäd Bästärd wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024, 18:36Evakuointikäsky annettu mutta armeijako ei evakuoinut?Jimi Ketipinor wrote: ↑15 Aug 2024, 18:17Venäjän väkivaltakoneisto lähti livohkaan ja jätti paikalliset oman onnensa nojaan.
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Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Edit, turha
Re: Venäjän hyökkäys Ukrainaan 2022
Jenkit sanoo, että Venäjä on vetänyt joukkoja Ukrainasta ja siirtää niitä Kurskin alueelle.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/15/poli ... index.html
Eräissä lähteissä on kerrottu, että noi on Hersonin alueelta eli Venäjä ilmeisesti luottaa, ettei Dnipron yli tulla. Toisaalta Robotynestä pääsee länteen ja uutisissa on sellaistakin ollut, että Ukraina iskee toistuvasti joen eteläpuolelle.
Sateet tulevat kai 5-6vk päästä joten varmaan sitä ennen nähdään jos Ukrainalla on joku kakkoskikka mitä vielä tehdä.
https://edition.cnn.com/2024/08/15/poli ... index.html
Eräissä lähteissä on kerrottu, että noi on Hersonin alueelta eli Venäjä ilmeisesti luottaa, ettei Dnipron yli tulla. Toisaalta Robotynestä pääsee länteen ja uutisissa on sellaistakin ollut, että Ukraina iskee toistuvasti joen eteläpuolelle.
Sateet tulevat kai 5-6vk päästä joten varmaan sitä ennen nähdään jos Ukrainalla on joku kakkoskikka mitä vielä tehdä.
"Some people don't want you to say this, some people don't want you to say that, some people think if you mention some things they might happen. Some people are really fucking stupid." - George Carlin

