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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

#12361 Post by Jesse Python » 21 Jul 2017, 13:34

Mistäs toi titteli on tempaistu jos sillä ei ole akateemista tutkintoa, onkse joku kunniatohtori?
Dr. Clovis was one of the first people through the door at USDA in January and has become a trusted advisor and steady hand as we continue to work for the people of agriculture," Perdue said. "He looks at every problem with a critical eye, relying on sound science and data, and will be the facilitator and integrator we need."

Clovis, who does not have a science degree, according to a Washington Post report, takes over a position that it said has generally gone to someone with an advanced degree in science or medicine.

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#12362 Post by dundergubbe » 21 Jul 2017, 13:37

Jesse Python wrote:Mistäs toi titteli on tempaistu jos sillä ei ole akateemista tutkintoa, onkse joku kunniatohtori?
Dr. Clovis was one of the first people through the door at USDA in January and has become a trusted advisor and steady hand as we continue to work for the people of agriculture," Perdue said. "He looks at every problem with a critical eye, relying on sound science and data, and will be the facilitator and integrator we need."

Clovis, who does not have a science degree, according to a Washington Post report, takes over a position that it said has generally gone to someone with an advanced degree in science or medicine.
Oisko toi sit lääkäri tai jotain? Ja science tarkoittanee tässä yhteydessä luonnontieteellistä tutkintoa.

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#12363 Post by dundergubbe » 21 Jul 2017, 13:40

Elikkäs tohtorin paperit löytyy, mutta ala ihan jotain muuta kuin mitä ton viraston toiminta

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#12364 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 21 Jul 2017, 16:18

Kysymystä voiko pressa armahtaa itsensä ratkottiin jo 1970-luvulla. Spoi!erin takana selvitys, lyhyt vastaus: ei voi, mutta venkoillen varapressan hetkeksi valtaan voi saada tältä armahduksen.
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Mary S Lawton, Acting Assistant Attorney General wrote:Presidential or Legislative Pardon of the President

Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a judge in his own case, the President cannot pardon
himself.

If under the Twenty-Fifth Amendment the President declared that he was temporarily unable to perform
the duties of the office, the Vice President would become Acting President and as such could pardon
the President. Thereafter the President could either resign or resume the duties of his office.
Although as a general matter Congress cannot enact amnesty or pardoning legislation, because to do so
would interfere with the pardoning power vested expressly in the President by the Constitution, it
could be argued that a congressional pardon granted to the President would not interfere with the
President’s pardoning power because that power does not extend to the President himself.

August 5, 1974

MEMORANDUM OPINION FOR THE DEPUTY ATTORNEY GENERAL*

I am forwarding to you an outline on the question whether the President can
receive an executive or legislative pardon, and several substitute measures. Please
advise me whether you require a more definitive memorandum, and, if so, which
portions should be expanded upon and which may be dealt with summarily.

I. Executive Action

1. Pursuant to Article II, Section 2 of the Constitution, the “Power to grant
Reprieves and Pardons for Offenses against the United States, except in Cases of
Impeachment,” is vested in the President. This raises the question whether the
President can pardon himself. Under the fundamental rule that no one may be a
judge in his own case, it would seem that the question should be answered in the
negative.

2. The necessity doctrine would not appear applicable here. That doctrine deals
with the situation in which the sole or all judges or officials who have jurisdiction
to decide a case are disqualified because they belong to a class of persons who
have some interest in the outcome of the litigation, thus depriving the citizen of a
forum to have his case decided. In that situation the disqualification rule is
frequently relaxed to avoid a denial of justice. Evans v. Gore, 253 U.S. 245, 247–
48 (1920);** Tumey v. Ohio, 273 U.S. 510, 522 (1927). It is, however, extremely
questionable whether that doctrine is pertinent where the deciding official himself
would be directly and exclusively affected by his official act. See Tumey, 273 U.S.
at 523.

* Editor’s Note: A hand-written note in the margins of this memorandum in the OLC daybook states
that the memorandum was “Hand carried by Lawton to Dep AG 8/5/74.”
** Editor’s Note: A different aspect of the holding in Evans was subsequently overruled by United
States v. Hatter, 532 U.S. 557, 569–70 (2001).



3. A different approach to the pardoning problem could be taken under Sec-
tion 3 of the Twenty-Fifth Amendment. If the President declared that he was
temporarily unable to perform the duties of his office, the Vice President would
become Acting President and as such he could pardon the President. Thereafter the
President could either resign or resume the duties of his office.

II. Legislative Action

1. Legislative pardon. The question whether Congress has the power to enact
legislation in the nature of a pardon or of an amnesty has not been authoritatively
decided. However, recently, in connection with several bills pertaining to an
amnesty to Vietnam War resisters, the Department of Justice has taken a very
strong position to the effect that Congress lacks the power to enact such legisla-
tion. See Hearings on Bills and Resolutions Relating to Amnesty Before the
Subcomm. on Courts, Civil Liberties and the Administration of Justice of the
H. Comm. on the Judiciary, 93d Cong. at 29–36 (1974) (testimony of Deputy
Assistant Attorney General Leon Ulman, Mar. 8, 1974) (“Ulman Testimony”). It
would appear to be questionable whether the Department should reverse its
position now and establish an embarrassing precedent.

It should be noted, however, that Deputy Assistant Attorney General Ulman’s
testimony was based on the theory that Congress cannot enact amnesty or
pardoning legislation because to do so would interfere with the pardoning power
vested expressly in the President by the Constitution. This would permit the
argument that Congress can enact such legislation in those areas where that power
is not vested in the President. A congressional pardon granted to the President
would not interfere with the President’s pardoning power because, as shown
above, that power does not extend to the President himself.

2. Enactment of a plea as bar to criminal prosecution. The suggestion has been
made that Congress could enact legislation to the effect that impeachment,
removal by impeachment, or even a recommendation of impeachment by the
House Judiciary Committee could be pleaded in bar to criminal prosecution.
While it has been the position of the Department of Justice that Congress can-
not enact pardoning legislation, it has conceded that Congress has the power to
enact legislation establishing defenses or pleas in bar to the prosecution in certain
circumstances. However, in the present circumstances it would seem that such
legislation would be identical with a legislative pardon unless it is of fairly general
application. The proposal of such legislation by the Administration therefore could
undercut the sincerity of its opposition to legislative pardons.

Moreover, it could be argued that such legislation would be inconsistent with
the language, if not the spirit, of Article I, Section 3, Clause 7 of the Constitution
pursuant to which in case of impeachment “the Party convicted shall nevertheless
be liable and subject to Indictment, Trial, Judgment, and Punishment according to
Law.” In our view this clause does not require subsequent criminal proceedings; it
merely provides that they would not constitute double jeopardy. To read this
clause as being mandatory would, of course, preclude any kind of pardon.
In any event care would have to be taken in drafting such legislation to have it
cover all prosecutions and not only those offenses which are the subject matter of
the impeachment proceedings. This may be important in view of the tax delin-
quencies not included in the proposed articles of impeachment.

3. Concurrent resolution requesting the next President to grant a pardon. Inas-
much as such a concurrent resolution would be only hortatory and have no legal
effect, it would not interfere with the future President’s pardoning power; hence, it
would be acceptable. The Department of Justice took that position with respect to
the Vietnam amnesty bills. See Ulman Testimony at 31, 33–34.

4. Immunity resulting from testimony before congressional committees. Title 18,
section 6005 of the U.S. Code (1970) establishes a procedure to grant immunity to
witnesses testifying before congressional committees. That immunity, however, is
limited to the use of the testimony or other information given by the witness or to
any information directly or indirectly derived from that testimony or information.
18 U.S.C. § 6002. It does not bar prosecution with respect to the subject matter of
that testimony. The scope of 18 U.S.C. §§ 6002 and 6005 therefore would not bar
any prosecution based on evidence other than that obtained from the witness.

MARY C. LAWTON
Acting Assistant Attorney General

Office of Legal Counsel
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#12365 Post by Unum bumbulum » 21 Jul 2017, 16:30

Diktatuuri? Ehkä wrote:Elikkäs tohtorin paperit löytyy, mutta ala ihan jotain muuta kuin mitä ton viraston toiminta
Joo.
http://www.the-scientist.com/?articles.view/articleNo/49939/title/Trump-Nominates-Sam-Clovis-to-Lead-USDA-Research/ wrote:Clovis earned a doctorate in public administration, taught economics at Morningside College in Iowa, and spent 25 years in the Air Force, according to a White House announcement.
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#12366 Post by Jussin villapaita » 21 Jul 2017, 18:29

CNN wrote:Exclusive: Mueller asks WH staff to preserve all documents relating to June 2016 meeting

(CNN) Special counsel Robert Mueller has asked the White House to preserve all documents relating to the June 2016 meeting at Trump Tower that Donald Trump Jr., Jared Kushner and Paul Manafort had with a Russian lawyer and others, according to a source who has seen the letter.

Mueller sent a notice, called a document preservation request, asking White House staff to save "any subjects discussed in the course of the June 2016 meeting" and also "any decisions made regarding the recent disclosures about the June 2016 meeting," according to the source, who read portions of the letter to CNN.

The letter from Mueller began: "As you are aware the Special Counsel's office is investigating the Russian government's efforts to interfere in the 2016 presidential election, including any links or coordination between the Russian government and individuals associated with the campaign of Donald Trump. Information concerning the June 2016 meeting between Donald J Trump Jr and Natalia Veselnitskaya is relevant to the investigation."

The preservation request is broad and includes text messages, emails, notes, voicemails and other communications and documentation regarding the June 2016 meeting and any related communication since then.

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#12367 Post by jalo villi » 21 Jul 2017, 19:04

sean spicer eros


t. media

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#12368 Post by jalo villi » 21 Jul 2017, 19:04

President Donald Trump's Press Secretary Sean Spicer has resigned after opposing Trump's appointment of Anthony Scaramucci as communications director, NBC has confirmed.

The New York Times first reported the news.

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#12369 Post by torakka/väyrynen » 21 Jul 2017, 19:07

RIP Spicer. Yllättävän kauan kaveri jaksoi ottaa paskaa naamalle sekä Trumpilta että medialta.
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#12370 Post by jalo villi » 21 Jul 2017, 19:10

saattaa olla et bönthö narahtaa tänään washingtonissa kun ei tarvi enää hetkeen vaivautua

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#12371 Post by Jussin villapaita » 21 Jul 2017, 19:13

Spicyn kirjaa ootellessa :D

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#12372 Post by manic pixie dream cunt » 21 Jul 2017, 19:26

Jussin villapaita wrote:Spicyn kirjaa ootellessa :D
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#12373 Post by natsitohtori » 21 Jul 2017, 20:15

siellä on luvattu life of brianin tyyliin all the golf you can eat. Ja sitte näkee kuvan ketusta kyykkypaskalla.
se syö ihmistä - kettu voi syödä paskaa, ja lipputankoja mutta tiedottaja ei syö ihan mitä vaan jossei ole tangoja. Hyvästi huoraava tiedottaja, ikävä tulee.

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#12374 Post by Paikallinen mieshenkilö » 21 Jul 2017, 20:51

Facebookin perustaja ja pääjohtaja Mark Zuckerberg lensi lauantaina vierailulle Glacier National Parkiin, joka on tullut tunnetuksi ilmastonmuutoksen näkyvistä vaikutuksista.

Zuckerberg vieraili kansallispuistossa katsomassa sulavia jääkenttiä, kertoo Washington Post.

Vain päiviä ennen Zuckebergin vierailua Yhdysvaltain presidentin Donald Trumpin hallinto yllättäen poisti delegaatiosta kaksi puiston ilmastoasiantuntijaa, joiden oli, muiden muassa, määrä esitellä paikkaa Zuckerbergille, kertoa ekologien tutkimuksista, sekä puiston johtajan.
Kyseessä on erikoislaatuinen liike, kun sisäministeriön viranomaiset ovat päättäneet puuttua kansallispuiston toimintaan.

Washington Postin mukaan asiassa käytiin useita sisäisiä keskusteluja, puhelinkonferensseja ja sähköposteja sisäministeriön ja kansallispuiston välillä.

Huomion arvoista on, että Zuckerberg on arvostellut äänekkäästi Trumpia ja etenkin tämän päätöstä vetäytyä Pariisin ilmastosopimuksesta.

Lehden lähteiden mukaan sisäministeriön lehdistösihteeri oli tehnyt selväksi ettei kansallispuiston johtajaa Jeff Mowta haluta mukaan kierrokselle.

Puiston julkisuudesta vastaavaa henkilöstöä oli myös ohjeistettu olla julkistamassa mitään Zuckerbergin vierailusta puiston Facebook-sivulla tai muualla sosiaalisessa mediassa.

Puiston henkilöstö ei saanut myöskään jakaa Zuckerbergin itse julkaisemaa tekstiä, jossa tämä puhui huolestaan puiston kutistuvista jäätiköistä.

Mow kertoi itse saaneensa sähköpostitse tiedon siitä, että hän ei saa osallistua vierailun opastuskierrokselle.
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#12375 Post by Jussin villapaita » 21 Jul 2017, 21:56

Vox wrote:Trump’s new communications director used to call him an anti-American hack politician

Back in August 2015, Anthony Scaramucci, who has just been appointed White House communications director, was on Fox Business to discuss Donald Trump’s then-recent bashing of the hedge fund industry as just people who “move around paper,” in contrast to Trump’s real brick-and-mortar construction business.

Scaramucci was scathing in his response, labeling Trump “a hack politician” with “anti-American” rhetoric. He said Trump was on track to be “president of the Queens County Bullies’ Association” and that while other GOP “politicians don’t want to go after Trump because they’re afraid he’s going to light them up on Fox News,” he wasn’t afraid.

“You’re an inherited money dude from Queens County,” Scaramucci said. “Bring it.”

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/888440965895262210

At the end of the clip, Scaramucci — who had a varied background in finance before making his real money running what’s known as a “fund of hedge funds,” essentially a super-high-fee investment vehicle that lets people pay Scaramucci fees for the right to invest in a diverse portfolio of high-fee hedge funds — gets to the real point.

“Bashing the hedge fund community is right out of Elizabeth Warren’s playbook,” Scaramucci remarks, before speculating that Trump might be “a plant” from the Democratic Party.¨
I’ll tell you who he’s going to be president of — and you can tell Donald I said this: The Queens County bullies’ association. You gotta cut it out now and stop all this crazy rhetoric, spinning everybody’s head.

I don’t like the way he talks about women. I don’t like the way he talks about our friend Megyn Kelly. And you know what? The politicians don’t want to go at Trump because he’s got a big mouth and he’s afraid he’s going to light ’em up on Fox and other places, but I’m not a politician. Bring it.

You’re an inherited-money dude from Queens County. Bring it, Donald. Bring it.
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