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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 18:51
by Jussin villapaita
Tämmönen ihan mielenkiintoinen juttu. Tää jamppa ei vaikuta kovin luotettavalta, mutta jos sillä on tosiaan tallessa noi kaikki viestit, niin näyttää aikast huonolta ainakin Fox Newsin kannalta.
The Daily Beast wrote:Trump Told Fox News to Frame Dems for Seth Rich Murder, Lawsuit Claims
Rod Wheeler says the network fabricated his quotes, and the story, at the behest of the White House.

President Donald Trump personally approved a false Fox News story claiming a murdered Democratic staffer—not Russian hackers—leaked Democratic National Committee emails to WikiLeaks, a new lawsuit claims.

Private investigator Rod Wheeler sued the cable-TV network in federal court on Tuesday, alleging it falsely quoted him in an article saying slain DNC staffer Seth Rich had contact with Julian Assange’s rogue publishing operation. Wheeler accuses Fox News regular and pro-Trump money manager Ed Butowsky of coordinating between the channel and the White House in an effort to frame Rich for the leaks and imply Democrats had a hand in his death. Fox News later retracted the article, saying it didn’t meet its “standards.”

The White House and Fox’s motivation to push the false story was to “lift the cloud” of the Russia investigation, Wheeler claims in the lawsuit. (Trump fired FBI Director James Comey a week before the article was published.) “One of the big conclusions we need to draw from this is that the Russians did not hack our computer systems and ste[a]l emails and there was no collusion like [t]rump with the Russians,” Butowsky allegedly wrote in emails to Fox News producers and anchors promoting the piece.

Wheeler’s lawsuit includes screenshots of text messages with Butowsky, including an exchange two days before the article was published in which Butowsky wrote: “president [Trump] just read the article. He wants the article out immediately. It’s now all up to you. But don’t feel the pressure.”

“A couple minutes ago I got a note that we have the full, uh, attention of the White House, on this,” Butowsky allegedly said in a voicemail that same day, according to the lawsuit. “And, tomorrow, let’s close this deal, whatever we’ve got to do. But you can feel free to say that the White House is onto this now.”

Butowsky told NPR, who first reported the lawsuit, that he was “kidding” about Trump’s supposed involvement. Outgoing press secretary Sean Spicer also told the news outlet that he took a meeting on the Rich “investigation” as a favor to Butowsky; however, “Spicer says he was unaware of any contact involving the president.” (The day Fox News’ article went live, Spicer dodged questions about whether he’d ever been kept abreast on the Rich probe.)

Wheeler is a former homicide detective who has worked as a “Fox News crime analyst” for over a decade. In 2007, he was forced to retract a story he reported on The O’Reilly Factor in which he claimed more than 150 “violent lesbian gangs” armed with 9-millimeter handguns in the D.C. area alone were “performing sex acts” and “committing crimes.” The story was entirely unfounded, but the network never separately apologized or retracted it, and Wheeler was allowed to stay on as a contributor. That same year, he claimed to the National Enquirer that “there is a good possibility that the D.C. Madam’s list contains the name of (missing FBI intern) Chandra (Levy)‘s killer!” That case remains unsolved, and Wheeler provided no further evidence.
Lueskelin tota paprua ja sieltä pomppas esiin ainakin tämmöset kohdat:

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Nää on aika vitun murhaavia Fox Newsin kannalta.

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Tässä kysymykseksi (tai ainakin mahdolliseksi selitykseksi) sitten taas toisaalta nousee, että onko tää Butowsky vaan ihan täynnä häränpaskaa. Ja tossa artikkelissakin oli: Butowsky told NPR, who first reported the lawsuit, that he was “kidding” about Trump’s supposed involvement.

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Tää oli mun mielestä hämärin kohta, koska tota boldattua kohtaa ei selitetty mitenkään, vaikka se on tossa ikään kuin suorana lainauksena, mutta siinä ei oo lainausmerkkejä ja sivun alalaidassa lukee jotta:
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:08
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Jare Dille-Nalle wrote:Dolanin henkilääkärihä kirjotti vaalien aikaan sen jonkun todistuksen miten dolan on maailman hyväkuntosin ihminen, mikä on helppo uskoo 7-kumppisestä kaverista joka ei oo koskaan harrastanut liikuntaa, juo kokista ja syö koppuraisia pihvejä.
Sehän kirjoitti sen muutamassa minuutissa..

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:09
by Ajatusten Mustionjoki
päänsä ja korppunsa syöjä wrote:veikkaan että donny joutuu johonkin lataamoon vielä ennen ku kausi loppuu
Et oo ainoa. Robert Reich, työministeri Clintonin kaudella + politiikan professori Berkeleyn yliopistossa julkaisi eilen tämmösen. Toki nimetön lähde, mutta ei yllättäisi pätkääkään jos Donaldilla alkais pää hajoamaan paineiden alla, ja että siinä vaiheessa Republikaanitkin joutuu kääntymään sitä vastaan.
Robert Reich wrote:Hill Republicans: Trump is Fritzing Out
MONDAY, JULY 31, 2017

This morning I phoned my friend, a former Republican member of Congress.
Me: What’s going on? Seems like the White House is imploding and Republicans are going down with the ship.
Him (chuckling): We’re officially a banana republic.
Me: Seriously, what are you hearing from your former colleagues on the Hill?
Him: They’re convinced Trump is out of his gourd.
Me: So what are they gonna do about it?
Him: Remember what I told you at the start of this circus? They planned to use Trump’s antics for cover, to get done what they most wanted – big tax cuts, rollbacks of regulations, especially financial. They’d work with Pence behind the scenes and forget the crazy uncle in the attic.
Me: Yeah.
Him: Well, I’m hearing a different story now. Stuff with Sessions is pissing them off. And now Trump’s hired that horse’s ass Scaramucci – a communications director who talks dirty on CNN! Plus Trump’s numbers are in freefall. They think he’s gonna hurt them in ’18 and ’20.
Me: So what’s the plan?
Him: They want him outa there.
Me: Really? Impeachment?
Him: Doubt it, unless Mueller comes up with a smoking gun.
Me: Or if he fires Mueller.
Him: Not gonna happen.
Me: So how do they get him out?
Him: Put someone else up in ’20. Lots of maneuvering already. Pence, obviously. Cruz thinks he has a shot.
Me: But that won’t help them in the midterms. What’s the plan before then?
Him: Lots think he’s fritzing out.
Me: Fritzing out?
Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?
Me: He wants to shake things up?
Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.
Me: What do you mean?
Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.
Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.
Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn’t know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.
Me: And?
Him: Well, it’s downright dangerous.
Me: Yeah, but that still doesn’t tell me what Republicans are planning to do about it.
Him: Look. How long do you think it will be before everyone in Washington knows he’s flipping out? I don’t mean just weird. I mean really off his rocker.
Me: I don’t know.
Him: No all that long.
Me: So what are you telling me?
Him: They don’t have to plot against him. It will be obvious to everyone that he’s got to go. That’s where the twenty-fifth amendment really does comes in.
Me: So you think…
Him: Who knows? But he’s losing it fast. My betting is he’s out of office before the midterms. And Pence is president.
linkki: http://robertreich.org/post/163658444390

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:09
by Rasmus-mafioso
Jussin villapaita wrote:
The Daily Beast wrote:Wheeler is a former homicide detective who has worked as a “Fox News crime analyst” for over a decade. In 2007, he was forced to retract a story he reported on The O’Reilly Factor in which he claimed more than 150 “violent lesbian gangs” armed with 9-millimeter handguns in the D.C. area alone were “performing sex acts” and “committing crimes.”
:mosh:

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:12
by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa
Jussin villapaita wrote:Tämmönen ihan mielenkiintoinen juttu. Tää jamppa ei vaikuta kovin luotettavalta, mutta jos sillä on tosiaan tallessa noi kaikki viestit, niin näyttää aikast huonolta ainakin Fox Newsin kannalta.
toi yksityisetsiväukko tosiaan ihan totaalikyherö joka kehitellyt ennenkin näitä juttujaan. nyt jäi kiinni paskat housuista tän seth rich -homman kanssa ja yrittää nyt syyttää muita. toi fox newsin ukko kenet haastoi on kommentoinut että totta munassa se lähetteli tolle viestejä kuinka nyt teit hyvää työtä ja valkoinen talo haluaa sut hommiin ja viestit oli ihan vittuilua

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:14
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Sen. Lindsey Graham: Trump Says War With North Korea an Option

There will be war between the United States and North Korea over the rogue nation's missile program if it continues to aim intercontinental ballistic missiles at America, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said President Donald Trump has told him.

"He has told me that. I believe him," the lawmaker said Tuesday on TODAY. "If I were China, I would believe him, too, and do something about it."

Graham said that Trump won't allow the regime of Kim Jong Un to have an ICBM with a nuclear weapon capability to "hit America."

"If there’s going to be a war to stop [Kim Jong Un], it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there. They’re not going to die here. And He has told me that to my face," Graham said.

"And that may be provocative, but not really. When you're president of the United States, where does your allegiance lie? To the people of the United States," the senator said.

Military experts have said there are no good options for peacefully stopping North Korea, although the National Security Council has previously presented Trump with possibilities that could include putting American nukes in South Korea or killing Kim Jong Un.

Graham said military experts are "wrong" that no good options exist.

"There is a military option to destroy North Korea's program and North Korea itself," he added.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea ... on-n788396

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:20
by Rasmus-mafioso
:lol:
Ystävällinen lihava mies wrote:
päänsä ja korppunsa syöjä wrote:veikkaan että donny joutuu johonkin lataamoon vielä ennen ku kausi loppuu
Him: Going totally bananas. Paranoia. You want to know why he fired Priebus, wants Sessions out, and is now gunning for Tillerson?
Me: He wants to shake things up?
Him (chuckling): No. The way I hear it, he thinks they’ve been plotting against him.
Me: What do you mean?
Him: Twenty-fifth amendment! Read it! A Cabinet can get rid of a president who’s nuts. Trump thinks they’ve been preparing a palace coup. So one by one, he’s firing them.
Me: I find it hard to believe they’re plotting against him.
Him: Of course not! It’s ludicrous. Sessions is a loyal lapdog. Tillerson doesn’t know where the bathroom is. That’s my point. Trump is fritzing out. Having manic delusions. He’s actually going nuts.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:25
by streptolokki
dumbo wrote:
Jussin villapaita wrote:
The Daily Beast wrote:Wheeler is a former homicide detective who has worked as a “Fox News crime analyst” for over a decade. In 2007, he was forced to retract a story he reported on The O’Reilly Factor in which he claimed more than 150 “violent lesbian gangs” armed with 9-millimeter handguns in the D.C. area alone were “performing sex acts” and “committing crimes.”
:mosh:
Tuostapa saisi varsin mainion tv-sarjan :ksmoker:

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:33
by Jussin villapaita
törkeästi räjähtelevä lokki wrote:
dumbo wrote:
Jussin villapaita wrote:
The Daily Beast wrote:Wheeler is a former homicide detective who has worked as a “Fox News crime analyst” for over a decade. In 2007, he was forced to retract a story he reported on The O’Reilly Factor in which he claimed more than 150 “violent lesbian gangs” armed with 9-millimeter handguns in the D.C. area alone were “performing sex acts” and “committing crimes.”
:mosh:
Tuostapa saisi varsin mainion tv-sarjan :ksmoker:
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:36
by Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies
Jare Dille-Nalle wrote:Millä dolanista huomaa, jos se menee psykoosiin? :scratch:
Paha mennä sanomaan. Ppsykopaatithan eivät mene psykoosiin, mut Dolani taitaakin olla narsisti.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 19:40
by Jesse Python
Eihän tämmöstä sekoilua kukaan osaisi edes käsikirjoittaa johonkin poliittiseen satiiriin. Haukuttaisiin välittömästi liian epäuskottavaksi.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 20:04
by Mute Pastajärvi
Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote:
Sen. Lindsey Graham: Trump Says War With North Korea an Option

There will be war between the United States and North Korea over the rogue nation's missile program if it continues to aim intercontinental ballistic missiles at America, Sen. Lindsey Graham, R-S.C., said President Donald Trump has told him.

"He has told me that. I believe him," the lawmaker said Tuesday on TODAY. "If I were China, I would believe him, too, and do something about it."

Graham said that Trump won't allow the regime of Kim Jong Un to have an ICBM with a nuclear weapon capability to "hit America."

"If there’s going to be a war to stop [Kim Jong Un], it will be over there. If thousands die, they’re going to die over there. They’re not going to die here. And He has told me that to my face," Graham said.

"And that may be provocative, but not really. When you're president of the United States, where does your allegiance lie? To the people of the United States," the senator said.

Military experts have said there are no good options for peacefully stopping North Korea, although the National Security Council has previously presented Trump with possibilities that could include putting American nukes in South Korea or killing Kim Jong Un.

Graham said military experts are "wrong" that no good options exist.

"There is a military option to destroy North Korea's program and North Korea itself," he added.
http://www.nbcnews.com/news/north-korea ... on-n788396
Sota pitää alottaa piakkoin että saa sen War President-suojakilven, jonka johdosta presidentin kritisointi = joukkojen kritisointia.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 20:08
by Poistunut käyttäjä 2a5d66
Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies wrote:
Jare Dille-Nalle wrote:Millä dolanista huomaa, jos se menee psykoosiin? :scratch:
Paha mennä sanomaan. Ppsykopaatithan eivät mene psykoosiin, mut Dolani taitaakin olla narsisti.
Tiiän yhen narsistin ketä meni psykoosiin, se vaatii jotain muuta mielenterveyden häikkää myös taustalle. Se ei ole hirveän miellyttävää katseltavaa ja voin vain pelolla spekuloida tulevaa, varsinkin jos kyseessä on useita satoja ydinkärkiä omistavan maan presidentti.

Itse veikkaan että 25th amendment pistetään viimeistään täytäntöön jos Don rupeaa aktiivisesti toimimaan vittuillakseen rebublikaanien agendaa vastaan tai ihan viimeistään silloin kun Donald julistaa sodan. Rebuja ei kiinnosta pressa joka a) ei aja heidän etujaan vaan paskoo aktiivisesti päälle tai b) mieluummin aiheuttaa ydinsodan kuin tulee nöyryytetyksi.

Asiat etenevät niin hyvään tahtiin niin moneen suuntaan, että veikkaisin jonkun seuraavista tai useamman skenaarion olevan mahdollinen: coup d'etat, salamurha joka on peitelty näyttämään luonnolliselta, viraltapano, deadlock valtaapitävien rebublikaanien ja presidentin välillä ja kaikkein vähiten todennäköisenä että Donald itse eroaa.

edit. Oliskohan joku Roger Stone tms. sisäpiiriläinen spekuloinut jossain haastattelussa muistaakseni että rebut käyttäisivät alzheimeria syynä presidentin syrjäyttämiselle?

edit2. http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/201 ... demand-im/ Tässähän se olikin.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 21:36
by Jussin villapaita
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 01 Aug 2017, 22:24
by Jussin villapaita
CHUCK TODD: You were very careful to say the president didn’t draft the statement. That isn’t what I asked. Did the president get a heads-up on the statement? Did he sign off on the statement? Was he asked to read the statement before it was given to the New York Times on Air Force One?

SEKULOW: No, I mean, I can’t say whether the president was told the statement was going to be coming from his son on that. I didn’t have that conversation and let me say this — but I do want to be clear — that the president was not involved in the drafting of the statement and did not issue the statement. It came from Donald Trump Jr. So that’s what I can tell you because that’s what we know. And Donald Trump Jr. has said the same thing. That it was, in fact, from him and I believe it was his lawyer was in consultation — I’m sure his lawyer was in consultation.
SEKULOW: The president didn't sign off on anything. He was coming back from the G-20 [summit], the statement that was released on Saturday, was released by Donald Trump Jr. and, I'm sure, in consultation with his lawyers. The president wasn't involved in that.

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well the New York Times says that he was involved in it, that several people on the plane were involved in it as well. So you're disputing ...

SEKULOW: That's incorrect.
A lawyer for the president issued the Washington Post with a curt statement: “Apart from being of no consequence, the characterizations are misinformed, inaccurate, and not pertinent,” Jay Sekulow said
President Trump lawyer John Dowd said in a statement to NBC on the Post's report: "Fake news, incorrect and misinformed of no consequence."
Ja nyt:
The Washington Post wrote:White House says Trump weighed in on son’s Russia meeting statement ‘as any father would’

The White House defended President Trump's involvement in issuing a statement about his son's meeting with a Russian lawyer during the campaign, saying that the statement was true and that the president was simply acting as a father.

“The statement that Don Jr. issued is true. There's no inaccuracy in the statement,” said White House press secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders. “The president weighed in just as any father would based on the limited information that he had.”

“This is all discussion, frankly, of no consequence,” Huckabee Sanders added.

The comments seem to confirm that Trump participated in the drafting of the statement on Air Force One, and contradict past statements from Trump's attorneys denying that he had any involvement.