Toimittaja: "Katso mitä on tapahtunut sen jälkeen kun vedit joukot pois!"
Oranssi: "Ai mitä on tapahtunut? No sitä on tapahtunut, että yhtään jenkkisotilasta ei ole kuollut!"
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 20:35
by superlemmikki
Trump ei halua tapattaa 1k-10k sotilasta kun Venäjä ja Irankin vihaa ISIStä niin miksi USAn pitäisi olla siellä. Mutta kuitenkin kunniat otetaan itelle.
Eikös se ollut ihan vain pari hetkeä sitten kun Oranssi Presidentti kertoi että ISIS on tuhottu 100% ja siksikin USA vetäytyy?
-Sanonut, että Turkin ja Syyrian sotiminen on heille luonnollista, USAlle tommonen on epäluonnollista, eli kyl he voivat sotia ihan miten huvittaa mutta kyllä minä sanktioita laitan töttöröö
Tekikö kukaan jatkokysymystä, että jos Turkki ja Syyria on sodassa niin sehän tarkottaa Naton kautta sitä, että jenkit ja Syyria on sodassa.
-Sanonut, että Turkin ja Syyrian sotiminen on heille luonnollista, USAlle tommonen on epäluonnollista, eli kyl he voivat sotia ihan miten huvittaa mutta kyllä minä sanktioita laitan töttöröö
Tekikö kukaan jatkokysymystä, että jos Turkki ja Syyria on sodassa niin sehän tarkottaa Naton kautta sitä, että jenkit ja Syyria on sodassa.
Ei tehty. Muutenkin Trump tuttuun tyyliinsä vastaili mihin huvittaa ja miten huvittaa. Kyllähän siltä kyseltiin kaikkee, että kaduttaako ja tekisitkö jotain toisin ja tiesitkö, että Sulttaani lähtee keulimaan mutta no regrets, yhtään jenkkiä ei kuole, no part in endless wars ja näin.
Tosiaan toimittaja kysy suoraan, että eikö ees kaikki hirveydet mitä siellä on tapahtunu saa katumaan niin Trump oli sitä mieltä että ABC:n pitää esittää julkinen anteeksipyyntö kun näyttivät jotain Kentuckyn räjähdystä Syyria-jutun yhteydessä ja on kyllä fake news taas.
-Sanonut, että Turkin ja Syyrian sotiminen on heille luonnollista, USAlle tommonen on epäluonnollista, eli kyl he voivat sotia ihan miten huvittaa mutta kyllä minä sanktioita laitan töttöröö
Tekikö kukaan jatkokysymystä, että jos Turkki ja Syyria on sodassa niin sehän tarkottaa Naton kautta sitä, että jenkit ja Syyria on sodassa.
Ei tehty. Muutenkin Trump tuttuun tyyliinsä vastaili mihin huvittaa ja miten huvittaa. Kyllähän siltä kyseltiin kaikkee, että kaduttaako ja tekisitkö jotain toisin ja tiesitkö, että Sulttaani lähtee keulimaan mutta no regrets, yhtään jenkkiä ei kuole, no part in endless wars ja näin.
Tosiaan toimittaja kysy suoraan, että eikö ees kaikki hirveydet mitä siellä on tapahtunu saa katumaan niin Trump oli sitä mieltä että ABC:n pitää esittää julkinen anteeksipyyntö kun näyttivät jotain Kentuckyn räjähdystä Syyria-jutun yhteydessä ja on kyllä fake news taas.
Mites se yks statisti? Se italian presidenttityyppi. Jotain puhetta vinoilusta oli, mutta tuleeko meemejä?
Q Are you okay -- are you okay with Erdoğan saying that he is not going to do a ceasefire?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: He didn't say that at all. He's meeting. And he's meeting today with some of our representatives. Mike Pence is leaving today, as you know. We needed to take an extra day for security reasons. But Mike is leaving. Mike Pompeo will be meeting also, who is here right now with us. And he is going to be joining the meeting. We have a lot of great people over there. We'll see.
In the meantime, our soldiers are not in harm's way -- as they shouldn't be -- as two countries fight over land that has nothing to do with us.
And the Kurds are much safer right now, but the Kurds know how to fight. And, as I said, they're not angels. They're not angels, if you take a look. You have to go back and take a look. But they fought with us. We paid a lot of money for them to fight with us, and that's okay. They did well when they fought with us; they didn't do so well when they didn't fight with us.
When I refused to allow the Americans, a year and a half ago, to fight with the Kurds against Iraq, I said, "Wait a minute, this country, stupidly, just spent a fortune on fighting for, with, around Iraq." Nobody knows how they spent it. But they spent -- actually, we're in the Middle East now for $8 trillion, if you can believe that stupidity. But, in Iraq, we're in for probably $5.5 trillion. So they're telling me, "Wait a minute, we just spent $5.5 trillion fighting in Iraq and with Iraq. And now we're supposed to spend money to fight with the Kurds against Iraq." I said, "No, thank you."
So what happens is, when I said we're not going to fight with the Kurds, the Kurds left. They didn't want to fight against Iraq, which right now isn't the greatest fighting force in the world. That happened twice. The Kurds, actually, are pulling back substantially from Turkey. And Syria is pulling in. Syria probably will have a partner of Russia -- whoever they may have. I wish them all a lot of luck. You know, Russia was involved in Afghanistan. Used to be called the Soviet Union. Now it's called Russia for a reason, because they lost so much money in Afghanistan, that they had to downsize. A very big downsizing.
So, if Russia wants to get involved with the -- with Syria, that's really up to them. They have a problem with Turkey, they have a problem at a border. It's not our border. We shouldn't be losing lives over it.
But again, we only had 28 soldiers. It was 26, 28. I got all different numbers. It ends up being 28 -- between the 26, 28. Two people, and they're fully accounted for.
So, that's the story. It's very simple. And we're watching and we're negotiating, and we're trying to get Turkey to do the right thing, because we'd like to stop wars regardless. Whether Americans are in or whether they're not in, we want to see wars stopped. That's a very important thing. On a humanitarian basis, we want to see that happen.
Steve?
Q How confident are you that Mike Pence will be able to arrange a ceasefire?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Why don’t you go and dictate?
INTERPRETER: Yes.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yes, please.
INTERPRETER: The answer was --
PRESIDENT TRUMP: I'll let you go.
INTERPRETER: -- "No, not at all." Excuse me. (Laughs.)
PRESIDENT MATTARELLA: (Speaks Italian.)
INTERPRETER: (Continues translation in Italian.)
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 20:59
by Mäd Bästärd
Semmosen huomion tein Oranssin Abhorrentin olemuksesta, että oli varmasti jollain napeilla rauhotettu kun pysy niin savikasvona verrattuna siihen Niinistön tapaamiseen.
Mites se yks statisti? Se italian presidenttityyppi. Jotain puhetta vinoilusta oli, mutta tuleeko meemejä?
Ei tuu kyllä meemejä tosta. Enemmän ne oli sellaseen hyvin diplomaattiseen tyyliin ilmastu ja tulkin välityksellä niin ei tule samanlaista painotusta ees kun Salella.
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:01
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
PRESIDENT TRUMP: So I view the situation on the Turkish border with Syria to be, for the United States, strategically brilliant. Our soldiers are out of there. Our soldiers are totally safe. They've got to work it out. Maybe they can do it without fighting. Syria is protecting the Kurds. That’s good.
We are -- and, by the way, every player hates ISIS. Everybody we're talking about. Syria more than us. Russia more than us. They've done a big number on Russia. And we're over there fighting ISIS, but they're over there fighting ISIS, too. They can handle it, and they should handle it. We can fight our own battles on our own territories.
But you have a lot of countries over there that hate ISIS as much as we do; in some cases, probably more. So they can take care of ISIS. We have them captured. The United States captured them. Some were released just for effect -- to make us look a little bit like, "Oh, gee, we've got to get right back in there." But you have a lot of countries over there that have power and that hate ISIS very much, as much as we do.
So I think we're in a very strategically good position. I know the fake news doesn’t make it look that way, but we have -- we've removed all of our, as we said, 50 soldiers, but much less than 50 soldiers. They're now in a very -- very safe location, heading into an even safer location.
And we will help negotiate. We have tremendously powerful sanctions. Our country has become economically much more powerful than, frankly, it ever was. We've picked up trillions and trillions of dollars in worth. The market was up big yesterday. It's going to be up big today, it looks like. The trade deal with China, just having to do with what we've done with the financial services, with banks, with the farmers, has been incredible -- far greater than anyone ever thought.
I agree, it hasn’t been papered yet, but it's being papered. But, in the meantime, as you know and as we've said many times, China has already started buying. They want to buy. They want to make a deal. They really have to make a deal. Their economy has been hurt very badly by what we've done and by the tariffs that we've charged.
And we've taken in tremendous amounts of tariffs. A small portion of them we've given to the farmer, which -- the farmers -- which has more than made up for what they've lost.
Go ahead.
(Interpreter provides translation.)
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:02
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
And because of the newfound economic power of the United States, because of the fact that we've made so many trillions -- many, many trillions of dollars in worth of the United States -- I call it the "newfound economic power" -- if my opponent would've won, China would right now be the most powerful nation, economically, in the world. And, right now, they're not even close. And if we're smart, they never will get close. But it depends on who sits in this chair.
But the United States has tremendous economic power. Far more power than playing around with having a few soldiers shooting each other at the border. I mean, you have a few soldiers back and forth, killing each other at the border. The power we have with sanctions and tariffs is far greater than what we're talking about.
With that being said, our military has been completely rebuilt. Much of the equipment has already been delivered. We spent two and a half trillion dollars rebuilding it over the last three years. And our military power is at the highest level, and our economic power is at the highest level. But I'd always rather use economic power before I use military power, because people aren’t getting killed with economic power. Okay?
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:06
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Q Mr. President, you're scheduled to see House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today. How do you expect that meeting to go?
PRESIDENT MATTARELLA: (As interpreted.) Before the members of the press introduce topics that have already been discussed this morning, President Trump was talking about the possible implementation of tariffs on European products following the whole Airbus affair. Of course, that’s a topic that we will certainly be discussing this morning, and I do hope that we can come up with a cooperative-based approach and a frank discussion, so we can avoid retaliation between the two parties.
Italy and I -- myself, personally -- have always felt that it's better to talk things through to find a common solution, to find some sort of understanding for one another's stances. Because the alternative to that would be tariffs followed by retaliation, followed by further tariffs. And we also have to understand that we are waiting for a solution of the Boeing affair, as well.
So, of course, within the spirit of the Atlantic Alliance, within the spirit of the friendship we've always had, I do feel it would be best to discuss these things and understand one another.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, in theory, there can’t be retaliation because this was an award that we got because of the fact that the European Union took advantage of past Presidents, and this was an award that we got for the unfair treatment given to the United States by the European Union. So there should be no retaliation.
This was getting us even because $7.5 billion worth of things happened -- bad things happened, unfair things happened -- to the United States by the European Union. So this was just getting us back to even. And nobody else but me would’ve gotten that $7.5 billion back for the taxpayers of the United States.
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:07
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Q Mr. President, I'm sure you saw reports that John Bolton said that Rudy Giuliani was like a “hand grenade” the way he was acting. And are you concerned that Bolton could be called to testify in your impeachment inquiry?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Look, John Bolton -- I got along well with him. Some people didn’t; some people didn’t like John Bolton. I actually got along with him pretty well. It just didn’t work out. I don’t know that he got along with Rudy Giuliani.
Rudy Giuliani was seeking out corruption, and what happens mostly in the 2016 election, because there was tremendous corruption in the 2016 election. I think even you would admit that. The election was -- it was disgraceful what happened, and what happened to me, and what happened to the Republicans. And that continues with Nancy Pelosi and with Schiff. Adam Schiff got caught making up statements that he said I said, that I didn’t say -- which is fraud. I mean, it's purely fraudulent. So it continues.
So, Rudy was a great prosecutor. He was the best mayor in the history of the city of New York, as far as I can see. I think he's pretty much acknowledged -- what he did for crime and everything else. And when he saw what was going on with our election of 2016 -- the election I won, but the election that was absolutely corrupted by things that took place in government. Now, we'll see what happens. The IG report is going to come out soon, and we'll see what happens.
I think people -- I know nothing about it, in terms of the report. I'm waiting for the report like everybody else. But I predict you will see things that you don’t even believe, the level of corruption -- whether it's Comey; whether it's Strzok and his lover, Page; whether it's so many other people -- McCabe; whether it's President Obama himself. Let's see whether or not it's President Obama. Let's see whether or not they put that in.
Q (Inaudible.)
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Wait a minute. Let's see whether or not.
So, Rudy saw that. And I can tell you, Rudy Giuliani -- because was very, very incensed at the horrible things that he saw, as are many people, okay? And many Republicans. And the Republicans have been treated very unfairly by the Democrats. I'll say this: Paul Ryan would never issue a subpoena. I don’t say right or wrong. He wouldn’t do it. He had too much respect for our country. Nancy Pelosi hands them out like cookies. Everybody -- I don’t even know these people. And for the most part, people like that are test- -- I don’t even know who they are. I never even heard of some of them, most of them.
But I have all these people testifying. And then they leak out. They don’t say the goods parts; they only say the bad parts. We're not allowed to representation. We're not allowed to lawyers. We're not allowed to have anything. The Democrats are treating the Republicans very, very badly. Fortunately, we have a lot of good, strong, smart Republicans. But they never dealt, Jon, with the Democrats the way the Democrats deal. And the Republicans won't forget it because what they're doing, what the Democrats are doing to this nation is a disgrace.
What they have done -- the disrespect that they've shown to the presidency -- and it'll happen to them. Because if the Republicans have the House, which I think they will -- because of impeachment, I think -- because of this nonsense impeachment. It's based on a perfect phone conversation -- an absolutely perfect phone conversation with the President of Ukraine.
A friend of mine, who's a top lawyer, read it. He said, "This is perfect. You didn’t say…" Did you know this was going to happen? I actually thought it was going to happen. There were many people listening to that conversation, because when I speak to a leader -- like, if I speak to the President of Italy, if I speak to anybody -- I know that there are many intelligence people on the line. I know that, I mean, with my understanding and knowledge. I don’t know exactly who, but I assume there are many people.
Fortunately, they had transcribers, stenographers -- people that do this for a living -- on the line because we have an exact copy of the report, of the call.
So the call was put out immediately when I started hearing about the whistleblower. Well, the whistleblower's report was totally wrong. The whistleblower didn’t know what he was talking about, or was given false information, or it was even worse than that. Now, all of a sudden, Schiff doesn’t want to talk to the whistleblower. Now, all of a sudden, quid pro quo doesn’t matter because now they see, in the call, there was no quid pro quo.
So, with Rudy, Rudy was seeking out corruption. And I think there's nothing wrong seeking out corruption.
Did you have -- Steve?
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:07
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Q But should Rudy have registered as a foreign lobbyist, though? That's the question here.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: I don’t know what he did. I -- I don’t know. That’s up to him.
Q He had clients and he was talking to you.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: That, you have to ask -- excuse me, no. You have to ask Rudy those questions. Don’t ask me. But Rudy was one of many people that was incensed at the corruption that took place during that election. Pure corruption.
For instance, I still ask the FBI: Where is the server? How come the FBI never got the server from the DNC? Where is the server? I want to see the server. Let's see what's on the server. So, the server, they say, is held by a company whose primary ownership individual is from Ukraine. I'd like to see the server. I think it's very important for this country to see the server. Nobody wants to see it. The media never wants to see it. But I'll tell you, Republicans want to see it.
So, Republicans aren’t treated well. And here's the problem: I think we're going to take the House, based on what's happening with the impeachment stuff. And the Republicans can do the same thing in reverse if they ever have -- and I hope it's going to be a long time, because nobody has done a better job with the economy, with our military, with -- I've rebuilt the military. Our economy is the best it's ever been. We have numbers that just came out where, not including taxes, the median household income for the average American has increased $5,000 in a very short time since I've been President. Nobody has ever heard of numbers like that.
So, people want to find out: Why was it so corrupt during that election? And I want to find out more than anybody else.
Steve, go ahead.
Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta
Posted: 16 Oct 2019, 21:09
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Q One of the things that has been exposed by this Turkey situation is that as many as 50 nuclear weapons are at Incirlik Air Base in Turkey. How confident are you of those weapons' safety?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: We're confident, and we have a great -- a great air base there, a very powerful air base. That air base alone can take any place. It's a large, powerful air base.
And, you know, Turkey -- just so people remember -- Turkey is a NATO member. We're supposed to get along with our NATO members, and Turkey is a NATO member. Do people want us to start shooting at a NATO member? That would be a first. And that's all involved having to do with NATO.
Yeah.
Q Mr. President, you're going to be seeing House Speaker Nancy Pelosi today. How do you anticipate that conversation?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Well, I'd say this: I think that she's done this country a tremendous disservice. She's created a phony witch hunt -- another one. The first one failed. They're all failing. This one is just absolutely crazy. All you have to do is read the transcript of the call. Read the transcript. This is a open and shut, simple case. They're desperate because they know they're going to lose the election. They're desperate to do something because they know they're going to lose the election.
This administration has created the strongest economy in the history of our country. We have the greatest stock market. We had -- over 100 times, we broke the record for stock market. People's -- if you look at people's stocks, their 401(k)s; if you look at anything you want to look at, they're far better off now than they probably ever have been in this country. Record stock markets. And don’t forget, stock market is not just rich people; it's all people. Because all people own in the stock markets. The New York Stock Exchange, all of them -- they're at record highs. Nobody has ever done what we've done.
So, they're playing games. They figure they can't win the election, so maybe we can find some ground. "We'll get somebody that Trump never met, and maybe they'll say something bad about Trump. And if they do really bad, maybe it can stick a little bit." I don’t think it's going to work. They've treated the Republican Party with great disrespect.
Okay, thank you very much.
Q Mr. President, how was your meeting with the Dunn family yesterday?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: My meeting with the family was really -- it was beautiful, in a certain way. They did not want to meet with the person in question. But we had a very good meeting. They're very nice people. And we met with the full group. It was four people, actually, as you -- you know how it's all broken up. And the meeting took place right here at about 6 o'clock last night, and it was very sad, to be honest. She lost, and they lost, their son. I believe it was going down the wrong way, because that happens in Europe. You go to Europe and the roads are opposite. And it's very tough.
If you're from the United States, you do make that decision to make a right turn where you're supposed to make a left turn. The roads are opposite. And she said that's what happened. That happens to a lot of people, by the way. But she said that's what happened. She was in the room right out there. We met right here, in these -- this area. And I offered to bring the person in question in, and they weren’t ready for it. But I did offer.
I spoke with Boris. He asked me if I'd do that, and I did it. Unfortunately, they wanted to meet with her, and unfortunately when we had everybody together, they decided not to meet. Perhaps they had lawyers involved by that time. I don't know exactly. I know the people were lovely. They were very nice. And they were, you know, desperately sad.
Q And, sir, did you suggest that the family had indicated at one point that they were interested in meeting with her?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: I thought they were. Based on what I saw, they wanted to meet. But now they say they only want to meet if they're in the UK. And that'll be up to them. But I did meet the family, and I expressed condolences on behalf of our country.
Spoiler:
Thank you very much, everybody.
Q Mr. President, because you're winning so much with the WTO, because you're growing the biggest economy --
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Wait, there's a great question I'm being asked. This is maybe the greatest question I've been asked in a long time. Please put those mics over here. Go ahead.
Q Because you're winning with the WTO, because you're growing the biggest economy the world, are you willing to give Italy a break on tariffs?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: We are looking at Italy very strongly. And, as you know, the seven and a half is to be divided the way we say. We've divided it up. Italy has got a problem with the way we've divided it up because they said they had much less to do with it, and Germany had more to do with it, and France had more to do with it, as an example. So we are going to look at that very strongly. Ambassador Lighthizer is here. We're going to look at it very strongly.
Okay? Thank you. Good question. I love that question.
Thank you all very much. Thank you.
Q Are you going to open up the meeting with Pelosi? Are you going to open up the meeting with Pelosi and bring us in?
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah, I'll bring you in, right? I'll bring you in. They're doing a bad thing. I'll talk to you. I'll talk to you.
Thank you very much, everybody.
Steve, please treat them nicely. Treat Italy nicely, please.
Q The translator did an amazing job.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Huh?
Q The translator did an amazing job.
PRESIDENT TRUMP: Yeah. That doesn’t always happen. Thank you.