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#37891 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 07:47



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#37892 Post by Sasse netä » 09 Jan 2020, 08:02

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#37893 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 11:49

Trump is ‘dangerous and incapacitated’ and urgent action must be taken, psychiatrists say in wake of Iran crisis

A coalition of mental health professionals says Congress must take war-making powers out of the president's hands

The Independent, Andrew FeinbergThe White House, Washington DC @AndrewFeinberg, 12 hours ago

A group of mental health professionals have warned Congress it must act urgently to demand Donald Trump undergo an evaluation to determine his continued fitness for office after nearly a week of heightened tensions with Iran.

The World Mental Health Coalition made the statement a month after warning Congress that the stress of impeachment could cause Mr Trump's mental state to deteriorate to a dangerous level.


"We have been seriously warning about this for some time. The US Congress must act immediately and forcefully without further delay," the group said in a statement obtained by The Independent shortly after the president struggled to pronounce words and sniffed repeatedly while delivering a scripted statement on the Iran crisis at the White House.

Mr Trump, they said, is "psychologically and mentally both dangerous and incapacitated" and has a presentation that is "consistent with a person who, when his falsely inflated self-image is questioned, or when his emotional need for adulation is thwarted, lashes out in an attempt to restore his sense of potency and command over others".


The group noted that while senior military leaders must pass yearly psychological evaluations, their commander-in-chief is exempt from such a requirement despite being "the person in most need and who is a maximum danger", and added that current tensions in the Middle East make this a "critical time", at which Americans "cannot wait any longer to deal with the dangerous situation caused by a mentally compromised person acting in erratic, reckless, impulsive, and destructive ways".

Because Congress has the constitutional power to declare and finance wars, it must "act immediately to take any war-making powers out of his hands", they said, adding that it is "imperative that the Congress be equipped with accurate information" from those in the medical community who are qualified in "assessment and management of psychological dangers".

"We urge Congress to consult with us for a profile, if not evaluation, and to take seriously the mental health aspects that are at play in this mentally impaired president," they said.

While no one in the group has examined the president personally, one member, George Washington University Professor Dr Richard Zinner, told The Independent last month that the so-called "Goldwater Rule" which purportedly prohibits psychiatrists from diagnosing a person they have not examined is "more of a principle or a standard", which is different from a rule "because the preamble of the code of ethics of the American Psychiatric Association that establishes the basic guidelines for the ethical canons says that a psychiatrist's responsibility, first and foremost, is to his or her patients and to society and to his colleagues and himself in that order".

The group's president, Yale University professor Dr Bandy Lee, told The Independent that Mr Trump's decision to respond to an incursion into the US embassy in Baghdad with an airstrike against Iranian General Qassem Soleimani was expected because he opted for the most extreme of the options with which he was presented.

Dr Lee noted that more than 800 of her colleagues had signed a petition warning Congress that the stress caused by the impeachment proceedings against him "would most certainly send him into a seething rage" because Mr Trump's "fragile, falsely inflated self-image could scarcely withstand such a wound". She added that from her perspective as a physician and mental health professional, it would be “inconceivable” for someone who meets full criteria for an involuntary mental health evaluation since long ago, based on dangerousness to others and the self” to be able to retain “full command over warmaking powers and nuclear weapons”.

"The fact that the Pentagon officials were stunned, and even considered presenting him with the assassination option, starkly reveals how little those around him understand him and how ill-equipped they are to manage him," she said. "They essentially handed him the craved match to throw into a field of gasoline".
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#37894 Post by Jesse Python » 09 Jan 2020, 11:51

Eikös noi jenkkilän tsykiatrit ole jo aikaisemminkin heittäneet tommosta steitmenttii?

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#37895 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 12:00

On. Sillä välin Trumpin kunto on vain heikentynyt.
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#37896 Post by Jesse Python » 09 Jan 2020, 12:22

Tuolla ylläolevan tweetin kommenteissa spekuloidaan rankan huumorin säestyksellä, mikä neurologinen tila tai lääkitys aiheuttaa tommosta hartioiden nykymistä ja kielen lipomista. Ainakin alkava alzheimer ja parkinson oli mainittu ja jotain lääkkeitä joiden nimet ei sano mitään.

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#37897 Post by Ingmar Bergmanin kuolema » 09 Jan 2020, 13:19

Trumpin arvostus on kansainvällisesti yhä pohjamudissa, kertoo Pew Research Center.
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#37898 Post by aatos kipotti » 09 Jan 2020, 13:41

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#37899 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 14:04

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#37900 Post by Spandau Mullet » 09 Jan 2020, 14:43

Fox News Hosts Were Against A Ground War With Iran. Trump Listened.

Fox News personalities by and large supported President Donald Trump’s confrontation with Iran over the past week. But between the lines, even the most ardent Trump supporters on Fox’s opinion side like Sean Hannity stopped short of encouraging all-out war, though some less prominent on-air figures spoke in favor of more extreme measures. And one of Fox’s biggest opinion hosts has consistently criticized the confrontation with Iran.

The coverage of the Iran showdown on Fox has reflected a conundrum for Trump supporters — whether to cheer his every move regardless or hold him to campaign promises to disentangle the US from conflicts in the Middle East.

In the hours and days following the US strike that killed Iranian military commander Qassem Soleimani, Fox hosts rallied in predictable fashion: praising the president as decisive, saying the move had made Americans safer, excoriating Democrats for failing to applaud him. As Iran launched retaliatory strikes on US targets in Iraq Tuesday night, with no direct communication from the president, observers fell even more into the habit of reading the tea leaves of Trump’s favorite channel to see if the administration was marching the country toward war.

Sean Hannity, in particular, gave the impression of having inside information Tuesday when he said on his show, “Their hostility will now be met with the full force of the greatest, most advanced, most sophisticated military this world has ever seen.” Hannity said that those who work in Iran’s oil refineries should be nervous.

But Hannity also said he didn’t want “boots on the ground,” nor did the president. He cast the potential for further escalation as something that would be the fault of the “swamp,” not the president himself. “The president has been clear he’s not putting boots on the ground. Might need a few more intelligence people. Might need to protect very specific areas. And I know the Washington swamp creatures, they like to send our kids to war. Then they put them on the battlefield, then they politicize the war and say never mind. We can’t allow that to ever happen again.”

Hannity paraded a slew of officials to back up that view. Sen. Lindsey Graham, who said he had just spoken to Trump, called Iran’s retaliation an “act of war” before stressing that the president “doesn’t want regime change, he wants the behavior of the regime to change” and that his goal would be getting Iran “back into a deterrent mode.” Sen. Ted Cruz said, ”We are not going to get into an extended land war in the Middle East, we’re not gonna do it.”

Sen. Marco Rubio and House Minority Leader Kevin McCarthy said much of the same, each reinforcing the other.

The morning after the strike on Soleimani, Geraldo Rivera challenged the hosts of Fox and Friends for cheering the move, arguing that a war would put US troops in harm’s way. Rivera also pledged to “counsel restraint” on Hannity’s show on Tuesday, before tweeting that his appearance had been canceled. Monday night, Tucker Carlson launched what would become a series of monologues criticizing the administration — though, notably, not Trump personally — for getting involved in yet another Middle Eastern nation. He broke from other Fox personalities in criticizing the entire venture, including the killing of Soleimani, which most others supported.

Fox is divided into news and opinion shows, though the division isn’t always clear-cut (news host Bret Baier, for example, said on Wednesday that critics of Trump’s moves might have “Trump Derangement Syndrome”). He later responded to criticism of that comment on Twitter, saying "Covering things fairly means you point out the good-the bad & the ugly." The network doesn’t impose a uniform editorial line on its shows, with each show operating with a degree of independence.

In this tense week, some minor voices in the Fox world — those trying desperately to win or win back Trump’s attention — have been pushing for war. Sebastian Gorka, a former White House official and conservative commentator, said on Fox Business that “we should welcome” Iran’s retaliation for the killing of Suleimani because “Now there can be no question that Iran is a threat to American national security. You don't have to be an expert in terrorism or irregular warfare to know that Iran is an imminent danger to our country, to our citizens, to our servicemen and women.”

“This president will unleash holy hell on that regime,” Gorka said.

Dan Bongino, a contributor to the network, said on Tuesday, “The mullahs only understand one language, and that's the language of death, sadly. And if death is what we have to give them to stop this, and sadly, that's what we have to do.”

But those with real influence, most notably Carlson, have not. Carlson has become an increasingly influential voice for anti-interventionism on the right and is very popular among the Trump base. And according to a source with knowledge of the conversations, Trump told people that he had watched Carlson’s show and it had affected his view on the Iran situation.

On Wednesday, Trump announced that Iran had backed down and indicated that the US wouldn’t pursue further military action, though it will continue to impose new sanctions.

The early reaction from Fox’s opinion hosts were encouraging for the president.

“I think what Trump has done is he’s blown up the myths and the lies,” Greg Gutfeld said on The Five. “He’s actually really good at this stuff. He’s not impulsive. This is something that was thought through. It was decisive and unpredictable.”
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#37901 Post by Pipo » 09 Jan 2020, 14:44

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Tuolla ylläolevan tweetin kommenteissa spekuloidaan rankan huumorin säestyksellä, mikä neurologinen tila tai lääkitys aiheuttaa tommosta hartioiden nykymistä ja kielen lipomista. Ainakin alkava alzheimer ja parkinson oli mainittu ja jotain lääkkeitä joiden nimet ei sano mitään.
Melko mautonta kyllä tuollainen poliittinen kaukodiagnosointi - vähän sama kun Hillaryn keuhkokuumeeseen liittyneistä huippauskohtauksista vedettiin tietyissä piireissä johtopäätöksiä että sillä on kaikki mahdollinen loppuvaiheen kupasta tuberkuloosiin.
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#37902 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 14:47

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#37903 Post by Jesse Python » 09 Jan 2020, 14:49

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Sama laulu jatkuu.
No mikös siinä kun kriisi on hoidettu pois päiväjärjestyksestä

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#37904 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 09 Jan 2020, 16:27

Falconetti roviolla wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 14:44
Jesse Python wrote:
09 Jan 2020, 12:22
Tuolla ylläolevan tweetin kommenteissa spekuloidaan rankan huumorin säestyksellä, mikä neurologinen tila tai lääkitys aiheuttaa tommosta hartioiden nykymistä ja kielen lipomista. Ainakin alkava alzheimer ja parkinson oli mainittu ja jotain lääkkeitä joiden nimet ei sano mitään.
Melko mautonta kyllä tuollainen poliittinen kaukodiagnosointi - vähän sama kun Hillaryn keuhkokuumeeseen liittyneistä huippauskohtauksista vedettiin tietyissä piireissä johtopäätöksiä että sillä on kaikki mahdollinen loppuvaiheen kupasta tuberkuloosiin.
Ehkä, mutta ei tuo kovin terveen miehen esiintyminen ollut ja ukko on ollut ihan pihalla pitkin kauttaan (kesken tilaisuuden pois kävelyt, vaikeutunut kävely ja puhe). Ajatellen Hillaryn kohtelua ja diagnosointia yhden huimauksen takia, Trumpia on kohdeltu todella silkkihansikkain.
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#37905 Post by kohta alkavat aikamoiset setit » 09 Jan 2020, 16:34

Pelkästään tämän kauden setviminen on kymmenen vuoden homma, hirvittää ajatella mitä toinen kausi tuottaisi.
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