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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 08:21
by Leper
ergonominen panoasento wrote:kickels kockels
http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/indiana-restaurant-owner-deported-friday-116463/ wrote:Roberto Beristain is the owner of a popular restaurant in Granger called Eddie’s Steak Shed. His family says he came to the United States from Mexico City illegally in 1998. He later obtained documentation to work in the country and checked in with ICE each year.

It was during one of those check ins last month that ICE took Beristain into custody because of an incident in 2000. Roberto and his wife, Helen, were visiting Niagara Falls that year and accidentally crossed into Canada. Officers there detained Roberto when they realized he was in the U.S. illegally.

During an interview earlier this month, Helen said she voted for President Donald Trump because she supports his immigration policies. She said criminals should be deported, but she didn’t think her husband would face that fate.
Kai näitä on aika vitusti jotka funtsii näin. :sad1: Vähän sama juttu kun nää aseet tuo turvaa -tyypit vaikuttas, tietoisesti tai ei tietoisesti, unohtavan sen, että silloin myös muilla kun niillä itsellään on ne aseet taskussa.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 08:45
by Poistunut käyttäjä 0380d1
Seeee on individualismi, se on individualismi, seee onnn joo..

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 08:48
by Jesse Python
Mitäs läksi

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 11:07
by Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies
Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote:En ois halunnukkaan! t. Trump 5v
The Hill wrote:Trump threatens to leave ObamaCare in place if repeal bill fails

President Trump warned House Republicans on Thursday that he will leave ObamaCare in place unless they approve legislation to repeal and replace it.

Trump officials meeting with the House GOP conference said Trump is done negotiating over the legislation, which was set to come up for a vote Thursday but was delayed.

Budget Director Mick Mulvaney, a former member of the House Freedom Caucus that has been negotiating with Trump, told the GOP conference that Trump wants a vote on Friday during a dramatic closed-door meeting, according to a GOP source in the room.

If the vote fails, Trump will move on to other priorities and ObamaCare will stay as the law of the land, Mulvaney said.

The developments set up a likely vote on the measure Friday afternoon.

Dozens of Republicans have vowed to oppose the bill, putting them into a direct confrontation with their president.

With all of the House's Democrats expected to vote against the bill, the GOP can only afford 22 defections.

The House will be voting on a modified bill.
A managers amendment to be released Thursday night that would repeal ObamaCare's essential health benefits, which require insurers to offer coverage in certain areas. Conservatives have demanded this change, saying it will lower premium costs.

Rep. Chris Collins (R-N.Y.) confirmed the Trump administration's message after the meeting. Trump is done negotiating, he said.

"We have to have a vote tomorrow. He expects it to pass, but he's moving on if for some reason it didn't," Collins said.

The congressman also summarized Mulvaney's message, saying the administration was determined to get a vote.

"If for any reason it's down, we're just going to move forward with additional parts of our agenda," Collins said Mulvaney told the House GOP. "This is our moment in time. The president is insisting on a vote tomorrow one way or the other," Collins said, quoting Mulvaney.

"If it doesn't pass, we're moving beyond healthcare."
:lol:

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 11:08
by Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies
Laku wrote:läpi menee älkää nyt unohtako sitä ettei noilla jenkki politiikoilla ole selkärankaa
Eipä tässä olekaan kyse mistään selkärangasta, vaan siitä että onko laki jo niin paska että oma kongressipaikka on uhattuna.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 11:12
by dikäli mikäli
Leper wrote:
ergonominen panoasento wrote:kickels kockels
http://indianapublicmedia.org/news/indiana-restaurant-owner-deported-friday-116463/ wrote:Roberto Beristain is the owner of a popular restaurant in Granger called Eddie’s Steak Shed. His family says he came to the United States from Mexico City illegally in 1998. He later obtained documentation to work in the country and checked in with ICE each year.

It was during one of those check ins last month that ICE took Beristain into custody because of an incident in 2000. Roberto and his wife, Helen, were visiting Niagara Falls that year and accidentally crossed into Canada. Officers there detained Roberto when they realized he was in the U.S. illegally.

During an interview earlier this month, Helen said she voted for President Donald Trump because she supports his immigration policies. She said criminals should be deported, but she didn’t think her husband would face that fate.
Kai näitä on aika vitusti jotka funtsii näin. :sad1: Vähän sama juttu kun nää aseet tuo turvaa -tyypit vaikuttas, tietoisesti tai ei tietoisesti, unohtavan sen, että silloin myös muilla kun niillä itsellään on ne aseet taskussa.
Tollanen turvallisen tuntuinen ja itsevarma ehdokas on varmasti puhutellut monia. Agenda ei ole sitten niin tärkeä kun eihän sellainen tyyppi mitään pahaa meille tekisi, mehän ollaan kanssa hyviä tyyppejä.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 14:32
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies wrote:
Laku wrote:läpi menee älkää nyt unohtako sitä ettei noilla jenkki politiikoilla ole selkärankaa
Eipä tässä olekaan kyse mistään selkärangasta, vaan siitä että onko laki jo niin paska että oma kongressipaikka on uhattuna.
Tuolla on edustajien palautepuhelimet soineet tiuhaan trumpcarea vastaan (siksi Trump kehotti kannattajiaan soittamaan sen puolesta) ja ympäri maata edustajien kaupungintalokokoukset niin täynnä kiukkuisia kansalaisia, että osa republikaaniedustajista on juossut paikan päällä karkuun, yrittänyt rajoittaa kysymysaikaa/osallistujamäärää tai jättänyt menemättä.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 15:49
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote:
Think Progress wrote:The White House may have skirted federal law to try and save its failing health care bill

Several official Twitter accounts lobbied Congress in support of the AHCA bill.

(...)
But as some people were quick to note, directly lobbying Congress in support of (or opposition to) a bill using federal dollars—including White House staff who earn federal salaries—is strictly forbidden under 18 U.S.C. § 1913.
(...)
Of course, the Trump administration has shown little to no regard for federal law during their two months in office thus far.
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+ sama potus-tililtä.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 16:03
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
New York Times wrote:Trump the Dealmaker Projects Bravado, but Behind the Scenes, Faces Rare Self-Doubt
En saa kopioitua, mutta artikkeli oli kiinnostava katsaus tilanteeseen, jossa Trump ei voikaan olla varma voitosta.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 16:29
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 16:30
by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa
ymmärtääköhän trump ollenkaan että haastaa riitaa sellaisten (oman puolueen) tyyppien kanssa joilla on ainoana valta panna trump viralta

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 16:39
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
CNN wrote:Why (almost) everyone hates the House Freedom Caucus

Updated 1149 GMT (1949 HKT) March 24, 2017

The rag-tag rabble-rousing House Freedom Caucus may be the linchpin to repeal and replace Obamacare at this point.
Its members, however, are Public Enemy No. 1 on Capitol Hill.

The group of conservative agitators who've irked leadership, held the line against spending bills and rebelled against trade priorities of leaders have now helped delay a health care vote at least one day.
Lawmakers and staffers are taking out their unhappiness on the group.

Even the White House is getting frustrated, sources say, as meetings -- -- including one Thursday morning with President Donald Trump -- have gotten them nowhere.

Rep. Bradley Byrne, an Alabama Republican and member of the Republican Study Committee, a large group of fiscal conservatives, complained Thursday morning that the Freedom Caucus continues to throw out an expanding list of demands and suggested there was little to be done to get some in that group on board and it was time to move on.
"Those members don't change so at some point you've got to say there's nothing in the world that's going to change their minds," Byrne said.

A senior GOP aide said the caucus realizes they have moderates at risk with nothing to show for it.
"They don't know how to get to yes. They just don't. And it's putting the whole process at risk right now," the aide said.

Byrne blasted the move to continue talks with the hard right in the Freedom Caucus while leaving the bulk of other members in the dark.

"The vast majority of us in the Republican conference have been left out of these discussions and we have no idea what's going on, and I think that is a problem for our leadership and I think it's growing problem for the chances of this bill," Byrne, who is supporter of the health care bill and part of the whip operation to help pass it.
Freedom Caucus Chairman Mark Meadows, R-North Carolina, said Thursday there are "30-40" votes against the bill at this point. He also tried to downplay his power.

"I don't have any veto power," Meadows told reporters. "I have one vote."
So what is the Freedom Caucus, anyway?

A brief history

The House Freedom Caucus got its start in 2015 when a small group of members came together to push for more conservative spending and policy ideals in the House. At first, there were just nine of them, but the group, which is considered the most far-right flank of the Republican conference, grew.

Who is in it?

There is no official list of members, but the group is currently led by Rep. Mark Meadows, a North Carolina Republican. Other prominent members include Ohio Rep. Jim Jordan, Idaho Rep. Raul Labrador, Alabama Rep. Mo Brooks, South Carolina Rep. Mark Sanford and Michigan Rep. Justin Amash.

What have they accomplished?

The group -- when they hold the line together -- can have a lot of influence.

In 2015, they pushed to defund Planned Parenthood in a must-pass bill to keep the government funded. The group's revolt against then-House Speaker John Boehner on a host of issues left Boehner ready to retire. During the Obama years, many of the conservative bills that made it through the House never had a shot of being signed by former President Barack Obama. Now, the group could have a lot more sway.

And while the group has insisted its relationship with House Speaker Paul Ryan is more open, the opposition by much of the group to House leaders' health care bill has created a schism once again between the group and leadership.

Why they matter now

The group has said repeatedly that it has the votes to kill House leadership's health care bill, and members seem to have enough sway with the White House that they've continued negotiating with Trump even after House leaders indicated no more changes would likely be made.

The Freedom Caucus may get a repeal of Essential Health Benefits to be included in the House leadership's bill. That would repeal the requirement in Obamacare that insurers cover 10 benefits such as maternity care and prescription drug coverage. Including it in the bill could substantially frustrate moderates who want to be a 'yes' but worry that their constituents would be irate if they take away the benefits.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 17:12
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
ergonominen panoasento wrote:ymmärtääköhän trump ollenkaan että haastaa riitaa sellaisten (oman puolueen) tyyppien kanssa joilla on ainoana valta panna trump viralta
Koittaa uhkailla.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 17:15
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 18:29
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
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