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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:51
by Piss Pisstopherson
Jare Dille-Nalle wrote:Tulevan yön twiittimyrskyä odotellessa. :happy1:
Ryan saa varmasti paljon kehuja resi tentiltä [-o<

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:53
by Kelju K Kokoomus
Sanois varmaan että "I got tired of winning, I told you that would happen, I have the best winnings, also illegal congress voters"

Eiköhän se aloita sodan jossain jotta pystyy unohtamaan tän tappion, tosin.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:57
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
Jesse Python wrote:Nyt jonkun pitäis kysyä Trumpilta että miten meni noin niinku omasta mielestä
Sehän työnsi jo Prebusin ja Ryanin rekan alle. Ja täähän ei ole tappio, kun ei äänestetty.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 21:58
by Piss Pisstopherson
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Yllättävä kärmes

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:00
by Jesse Python
voiha hemmetti

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:05
by Piss Pisstopherson
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:shitxplosmoker:

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:09
by Piss Pisstopherson
Laitetaas vielä tääkin hassuttelu New Jerseyn demokraattiedustajlta

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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:17
by tekstendääriä naulan kantaan
kohtalaisen pettyneen oloinen Ryan pitää tiedotustilaisuutta parhaillaan.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:22
by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa
art of the deal
Ryan: 'The President gave his all in this effort'

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:28
by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa
turkkilaisilta rahaa ottanut sisäisen turvallisuuden neuvonantaja flynn tapasi turkkilaisia ministereitä ja suunnitteli miten gulen voitaisiin roudata jenkeistä turkkiin ilman oikeudenkäyntiä
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:31
by craft-artesaani
Avointa, komeaa ja rehellistä toimintaa. Siitä minä nautin.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:38
by Jesse Python
https://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/ri ... 960c2b0205
Trump’s colossal failure
By Jennifer Rubin March 24 at 4:05 PM
The many ups and downs of the GOP health-care battle Play Video3:48
Republicans withdrew the American Health Care Act moments before a scheduled vote on March 24, after failing to woo enough lawmakers to support it. Here are the key turning points in their fight to pass the bill. (Jenny Starrs/The Washington Post)
House Speaker Paul D. Ryan (R-Wis.) avoided total humiliation in wriggling out of the president’s order to take what he knew would be a losing vote on the American Health Care Act. That he had to go, whip list in hand, to the White House, tells us how far he has been reduced in stature by this process.

In refusing to take a vote that apparently would not even have been close, Ryan at least avoided unnecessarily putting his own members at risk (e.g., moderates who were asked to take unpopular votes, conservatives who would disappoint the hard-edged Heritage Action and other groups working against the bill). He also retained a smidgen of his own stature. Had he gone forward he would have effectively forfeited Congress’s standing as a co-equal branch of government.

Ryan will remain speaker because no one else wants the job, but in a sense he does not “lead” the House Republicans, let alone the House. He is continuously caught in the crossfire between the moderates and the far right, just as his predecessor was. He will have his hands full keeping the House together in the future on controversial, “hard” votes. The lesson members learned was to look after their own interests. Calling Ryan and Trump’s bluff worked well for them.

While Ryan loses stature, Trump does not necessarily gain any. Previously he claimed victory merely by decimating the opposition (GOP challengers, Hillary Clinton, a reporter, etc.). Now Ryan’s loss is not Trump’s gain. (It might be Stephen K. Bannon’s gain, but not Trump, who needs to show results.) Trump shares responsibility for a bill he endorsed and lobbied hard to get. (Press secretary Sean Spicer said Trump “left everything on the field.”) His rallies and threats and his vapid cheerleading count for nothing when it comes to governance. What worked in a campaign no longer serves any useful purpose.

Trump now will rightly be seen as a weakened, if not inept, president. His attention span lasts only a couple of weeks before, starved for adulation, he moves onto the next thing in search of affirmation. Democrats know this, as do Republican opponents. You can wait this guy out.

Sean Spicer really wants you to know: This health care thing isn't Trump's fault Play Video4:29
White House press secretary Sean Spicer repeatedly asserted that President Trump has done “everything” to try to pass the GOP-proposed American Health Care Act during his briefing on March 24 at the White House. (Peter Stevenson/The Washington Post)
Trump may choose to shake up his staff, but the bravado and the willful ignorance about policy come from the top. His defiance of norms and refusal to operate in the real world are formidable hurdles that impair his ability to do his job. Unless he changes (at 70 years old, he is unlikely to) he will lose over and over again.

Health-care reform surely is dead for now, most likely for the remainder of Trump’s term. Trump, rather than slaying the Freedom Caucus, let the Freedom Caucus defeat him. If Trump wants to get anything done, they reason, he will have to go through them. If Trump wanted — as he was willing to do with a very right-wing health-care bill that contradicted his populist ethos and many specific promises — to turn right in order to appease the emboldened Freedom Caucus, he would still be left with opposition from House moderates and the Senate. In trying to govern like Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Tex.), he’ll find himself without popular or legislative support. And if Trump pursues that course, he will wind up sacrificing his base without much to show for it.

In short, Trump now stands as the emperor with no clothes — vulnerable, weakened and mocked. Sad!

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:41
by Jussin villapaita
Republikaaneilla oli 7 vuotta aikaa tehä uus mieleisensä laki. Hups. :dontknowsmoker:

Trump vissiin antaa jossain vaiheessa lausunnon asian tiimoilta.

edit: itse asiassa just nyt

"I've been saying for the last 1.5 years that the best we could do is to let obamacare explode"

Syyttelee muutenkin ihan 5/5 demokraatteja.

Eli tää udistushomma oli nyt toistaseks tässä.

Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:50
by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja
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Re: Täällä seurataan Trumpin presidenttikautta

Posted: 24 Mar 2017, 22:50
by Piss Pisstopherson
Häviäjät: löydetty

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