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#8356 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 26 Mar 2017, 17:42

Germany slams ‘intimidating’ £300bn White House bill

Donald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country “owed” Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as “outrageous” by one German minister.

“The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations,” the minister said.
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#8357 Post by Jussin villapaita » 26 Mar 2017, 17:45

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Germany slams ‘intimidating’ £300bn White House bill

Donald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country “owed” Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as “outrageous” by one German minister.

“The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations,” the minister said.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germa ... -dl7dk629k

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Siis tää anto Merkelille käteen jonkun täysin keksityn monen sadan miljardin laskun Naton nimissä? :facepalm:

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#8358 Post by Poistunut käyttäjä 22a646 » 26 Mar 2017, 18:07

Vuodelta 2013. :D

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#8359 Post by manic pixie dream cunt » 26 Mar 2017, 18:25

Trump oli eilen tviitannut että
Trump@Twitter wrote:Watch @JudgeJeanine on @FoxNews tonight at 9:00 P.M.
ja jännästi tossa ohjelmassa juontaja rillas Paul Ryania ja puolusti Trumpia:
At the open of her show, she ripped apart the Speaker of the House. "Paul Ryan needs to step down as speaker of the house,” she said. “The reason? He failed to deliver the votes on his healthcare bill, the one trumpeted to repeal and replace Obamacare, the one that he had seven years to work on, the one he had under lock and key in the basement of Congress, the one that had to be pulled to prevent the embarrassment of not having enough votes to pass.”

She had no patience for Ryan's claims that opposition was unexpectedly stronger than they'd envisioned. "How could you possibly misjudge this?" she spat.

Pirro said the blame is Ryan's, not Trump's. “I want to be clear, this is not on President Trump. No one expected a businessman to completely understand the nuances, the complicated ins and outs of Washington and its legislative process. How would he know which individuals upon which he would be able to rely?”

And she said she wasn't delivering a message for Trump, who said after the bill was pulled that he continued to have confidence in Ryan. "I certainly have not spoken to the president about any of this, but I can only imagine that [Trump] and his aides took on healthcare because they believed you had his back, and you didn't! They didn't even test the waters."

Trump’s chief of staff, Reince Priebus, who is a longtime ally of Ryan's, said on Fox News on Sunday that the timing of Trump's tweet was merely “coincidental,” although he also said he hadn't talked to the president about it.

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Tähän on tultu. :sad1lol: Koittakaa nyt päättää onko se Trump diilintekijä-nero vai mistään mitään tietämätön bisnesmiesraukka.

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#8360 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 26 Mar 2017, 19:47

Onhan sillä takapiruja junailemassa asioita.
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#8361 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 26 Mar 2017, 19:54

No niin, lisää tuosta laskusta.
Independent wrote:Donald Trump printed out made-up £300bn Nato invoice and handed it to Angela Merkel

President estimated Germany’s underspend on alliance over the past 12 years, then added interest

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Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.

Mr Trump reportedly instructed aides to calculate how much German spending fell below two per cent over the past 12 years, then added interest.

Estimates suggest the total came to £300bn, with official figures citing the shortfall to be around £250bn plus £50bn in interest added on.

The Times quoted a German government minister as saying the move was “outrageous”.

The unnamed minister said: “The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the Chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations.”

And the paper quoted a source close to Mrs Merkel saying she has “ignored the provocation”.

The bill follows a disastrous meeting between the pair earlier this month, characterised by Mr Trump’s refusal to shake his peer’s hand.



Angela Merkel will reportedly ignore Donald Trump’s attempts to extricate £300bn from Germany for what he deems to be owed contributions to Nato.

The US President is said to have had an “invoice” printed out outlining the sum estimated by his aides as covering Germany’s unpaid contributions for defence.

Said to be presented during private talks in Washington, the move has been met with criticism from German and Nato officials.

While the figure presented to the Germans was not revealed by either side, Nato countries pledged in 2014 to spend two per cent of their GDP on defence, something only a handful of nations – including the UK, Greece, Poland and Estonia – currently do.

But the bill has been backdated even further to 2002, the year Mrs Merkel’s predecessor, Gerhard Schröder, pledged to spend more on defence.

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Mr Trump reportedly instructed aides to calculate how much German spending fell below two per cent over the past 12 years, then added interest.

Estimates suggest the total came to £300bn, with official figures citing the shortfall to be around £250bn plus £50bn in interest added on.

The Times quoted a German government minister as saying the move was “outrageous”.

The unnamed minister said: “The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the Chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations.”

And the paper quoted a source close to Mrs Merkel saying she has “ignored the provocation”.

The bill follows a disastrous meeting between the pair earlier this month, characterised by Mr Trump’s refusal to shake his peer’s hand.

A day after the meeting, Mr Trump tweeted: “Despite what you have heard from the FAKE NEWS, I had a GREAT meeting with the Chancellor Angela Merkel.

“Nevertheless, Germany owes ... vast sums of money to NATO & the United States must be paid more for the powerful, and very expensive, defense it provides to Germany!”

In response to the claims, German defence minister Ursula Von der Leyen rejected the notion the European nation owed the US or Nato.

She issued a statement saying: “There is no debt account at Nato.

“Defence spending also goes into UN peacekeeping missions, into our European missions and into our contribution to the fight against [Isis] terrorism.”

Her comments were backed by Ivo Daalder, permanent representative to Nato from 2009 to 2013 under the Obama administration, who queried the President’s understanding of the organisation.

He tweeted: “Sorry Mr President, that’s not how Nato works. The US decides for itself how much it contributes to defending Nato.

“This is not a financial transaction, where Nato countries pay the US to defend them. It is part of our treaty commitment.”

Mr Trump has repeatedly voiced his criticism over member payments to Nato, throwing doubt on the future role of the US in the organisation.

He has singled out a number of Nato countries, including Germany, over their defence contributions claiming the US has been forced to bear the brunt and pick up the tab.
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#8362 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 26 Mar 2017, 19:56

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#8363 Post by Jesse Python » 26 Mar 2017, 20:04

Ei helvetti mä luulin että toi lasku on jonkun huumorisivuston läppä :facepalm2:

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#8364 Post by dikäli mikäli » 26 Mar 2017, 20:14

Jesse Python wrote:Ei helvetti mä luulin että toi lasku on jonkun huumorisivuston läppä :facepalm2:
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#8365 Post by Poistunut käyttäjä 2a5d66 » 26 Mar 2017, 20:15

Jussin villapaita wrote:
Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote:
Germany slams ‘intimidating’ £300bn White House bill

Donald Trump handed the German chancellor Angela Merkel a bill — thought to be for more than £300bn — for money her country “owed” Nato for defending it when they met last weekend, German government sources have revealed.

The bill — handed over during private talks in Washington — was described as “outrageous” by one German minister.

“The concept behind putting out such demands is to intimidate the other side, but the chancellor took it calmly and will not respond to such provocations,” the minister said.
http://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/germa ... -dl7dk629k

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Siis tää anto Merkelille käteen jonkun täysin keksityn monen sadan miljardin laskun Naton nimissä? :facepalm:
Ei ole tainnut ulkomaan politiikka ollut tällaista nauruhuumorisirkusta koskaan mun elämäni aikana.

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#8366 Post by Isä Ted » 26 Mar 2017, 20:17

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Jesse Python wrote:Ei helvetti mä luulin että toi lasku on jonkun huumorisivuston läppä :facepalm2:
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#8367 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 26 Mar 2017, 20:36

Siinä on ollut Merkelillä pokassa pitelemistä.
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#8368 Post by eh » 26 Mar 2017, 20:40

No one expected a businessman to completely understand the nuances, the complicated ins and outs of Washington and its legislative process.
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#8369 Post by GEOMETRINEN IHME » 26 Mar 2017, 21:22

:sad1lol:
Ystäväni,
Ihmisinä joudumme elämään suurten paineiden ja tulevaisuuden pelkoa tuovien ahdistusten alla.
Elämä vaatii niin paljon ja tulevaisuus pelottaa.
Jokainen päivä tuo ahdistusta lisääviä uutisia, ja vaikka tänään menee hyvin, ei huomisesta voi olla enää varma.

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#8370 Post by GEOMETRINEN IHME » 26 Mar 2017, 21:23

ei vittu mitä
Ystäväni,
Ihmisinä joudumme elämään suurten paineiden ja tulevaisuuden pelkoa tuovien ahdistusten alla.
Elämä vaatii niin paljon ja tulevaisuus pelottaa.
Jokainen päivä tuo ahdistusta lisääviä uutisia, ja vaikka tänään menee hyvin, ei huomisesta voi olla enää varma.

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