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#9616 Post by Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja » 04 May 2017, 11:51

Omaa en ehdi ny laatia, joten tässä CNN:n tiivistelmä:
10 things we learned from FBI Director James Comey's Senate hearing

(CNN)FBI Director James Comey addressed senators for four hours Wednesday, giving testimony to the Senate judiciary committee mostly related to Russia's meddling in the US election last year.

In that time, Comey touched on a variety of subtopics and revealed a lot of his thinking that had gone on behind the scenes.

Here are 10 things we learned:
1. Bill Clinton's meeting with Attorney General Loretta Lynch proved disastrous

Comey said he decided to go public with his findings from the Hillary Clinton email investigation following former President Bill Clinton met privately with Attorney General Loretta Lynch. Comey said he felt he had to prove the FBI was independent from political influence.

"Her meeting with President Clinton on that airplane was the capper for me, and I then said, 'You know what? The department cannot, by itself, credibly end this,'" Comey said.

Not long after their meeting, Comey publicly chastised Hillary Clinton for using a private email in a news conference that laid the groundwork for the October surprise revelation by Comey that he was looking again at her emails.

2. FBI investigators thought Anthony Weiner had the missing Clinton email trove

FBI investigators reviewing former Rep. Anthony Weiner's computer in an unrelated case discovered he had thousands of emails from Hillary Clinton's Verizon Blackberry account -- which they believed were the missing Clinton emails, Comey told the Senate Judiciary Committee.

That discovery set the ball rolling on a series of events that many Democrats argue -- including Hillary Clinton -- cost the election. Comey said he alerted Congress of the finding, with the full expectation that lawmakers would leak that discovery.

By the time investigators determined they were not the missing emails -- and it did not change their initial decision not to seek prosecution -- the national narrative had already shifted back to Clinton's emails, with just days left before the election.

3. The FBI investigated Weiner and Abedin for mishandling classified information


After the discovery of Clinton's emails, the FBI opened an investigation into whether Weiner and Huma Abedin had mishandled classified information in Clinton's emails. But, Comey said, they determined there was no criminal intent from either one and decided not to seek charges.

"Somebody should be prosecuted for letting Anthony Weiner have access to classified intelligence," Sen. Lindsey Graham said.

Comey replied: "There's no Anthony Weiner statute."

4. Sally Yates alerted Comey that Flynn could be vulnerable to blackmail


Comey confirmed that then-acting Attorney General Sally Yates alerted him in January that former National Security Adviser Michael Flynn had lied about his conversations with Russian ambassador to the US Sergey Kislyak, and could be vulnerable to blackmail. Yates is expected to tell a Senate Judiciary subcommittee led by Sen. Lindsey Graham the same thing in testimony this coming Monday.

5. Russia is still "active" in US politics

"Is it fair to say the Russian government is still involved in American politics?" Graham asked.
"Yes," Comey said.

Comey and other intelligence officials have publicly said they're counting on Russia trying to influence US elections from here on, using similar tactics to what they used in 2016.

One rebuttal that Comey said will work is creating "good troll armies" online to counter Russian disinformation campaign.

6. Comey sees a difference between regular journalism and 'intelligence porn'

Comey has forever given the world a new term for WikiLeaks' unmitigated style of unauthorized intelligence dumps: "intelligence porn."

Responding to a question from Sen. Ben Sasse whether he considered WikiLeaks to be journalism, Comey went off:
"To my mind it crosses a line when it moves from being about trying to educate a public and instead just becomes about intelligence porn, frankly," Comey said. "Just pushing out information about sources and methods without regard to interest, without regard to the First Amendment values that normally underlie press reporting, and simply becomes a conduit for the Russian intelligence services or some other adversary of the United States."

7. The Justice Department is going after leakers


Senate Judiciary Chairman Chuck Grassley peppered Comey, pressing him on what the FBI was doing to stop the recent spate of leaks. The line of questioning is similar to questions House Republicans pressed Comey on during the House Intelligence Committee hearing in March.

"Leaks are always a problem, but especially in the last three-to-six months," Comey said, noting that he wouldn't confirm any specific investigations into leaks. "Where there is a leak of classified information, the FBI -- if it's our information -- makes a referral to the Department of Justice."

8. Comey felt "nauseous" thinking he affected the election

Comey clearly labored over the decision to announce, in October, that he was looking again at Clinton's emails, saying the thought that he affected the outcome made him feel "mildly nauseous."

"Look, this is terrible. It makes me mildly nauseous to think that we might have had some impact on the election," Comey said. "But honestly, it wouldn't change the decision."

9. Trump blasts don't bother Comey

Wednesday's public hearing marked the second time Trump knocked his own FBI director around the time of his public hearing. In March, Trump sub-tweeted Comey throughout the actual House hearing, repeatedly misstating testimony he was delivering.

Late Tuesday night, Trump tweeted " FBI Director Comey was the best thing that ever happened to Hillary Clinton in that he gave her a free pass for many bad deeds!"

Comey brushed it off Wednesday, saying he didn't give Clinton a free pass.

White House Press Secretary Sean Spicer later explained that Trump "has confidence in the director."

10. The FBI is still investigating ties between the Trump campaign and Russia

Graham asked Comey if the Trump Russia investigation was still under way.
Comey responded, "Yes."
http://edition.cnn.com/2017/05/03/polit ... ighlights/
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#9620 Post by Jesse Python » 04 May 2017, 14:45

National day of Prayer, voi helevetti

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#9621 Post by leipä » 04 May 2017, 14:53

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#9622 Post by badger » 04 May 2017, 15:09

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eikä tää homma käsitelty jo? trumpin ja kavereiden nimet tuli esiin, koska ne oli yhteydessä seurannassa oleviin ulkomaalaisiin
The report of Rice unmasking Trump officials followed the announcement of the Chairman of the House Intelligence Committee, Republican Devin Nunes, "that he had seen reports indicating that Mr. Trump or his associates might have been 'incidentally' swept up in the monitoring of foreigners." The Committee was investigating both Trump's ties to Russian attempts to influence the 2016 election and Trump's unfounded allegations that President Obama had Trump Towers under surveillance. Lake's April 3 report of the unmasking specified "Rice's requests to unmask the names of Trump transition officials do not vindicate Trump's own tweets from March 4 in which he accused Obama of illegally tapping Trump Tower." Nevertheless, Republicans called for an investigation into the unmasking while Democrats claimed the unmasking story was a diversion from the Russian influence investigation.

After members of the Senate and House Intelligence Committees were able to view the material on which Nunes based his assertions, CNN reported that both Democrats and Republicans familiar with the material said that there was "no evidence that Obama administration officials did anything unusual or illegal." The report also called Rice's unmasking requests "normal and appropriate."

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#9623 Post by Poistunut käyttäjä 22a646 » 04 May 2017, 15:18

Semmonen juttu tosta rukouspäivästä että kuulin tossa taannoin että anglosaksisissa maissa on täysin maallistuneillakin ihmisillä ja perheillä tapana lukea ruokarukouksia (grace) kun syödään porukalla. Aloin siitä sitten miettiä että onkohan nää rukousaamiaiset ja -päivät samanlainen juttu eli enemmän joku traditio todellisuudessa vailla minkäänlaista uskonnollista merkitystä..

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#9625 Post by Jussin villapaita » 04 May 2017, 21:21

Republikaanit sai ehdotuksensa uudesta terveydenhuoltolaista just läpi alahuoneessa muutaman äänen marginaalilla.

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#9626 Post by Jimi Heydrich » 04 May 2017, 21:28

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#9627 Post by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa » 04 May 2017, 21:41

parasta tossa trumpin uskonnonvapaus-executive orderissa on että sen varjolla voi kieltää raiskatuksi tulleilta naisilta terveysvakuutuksen, koska jeesus

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Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa wrote:parasta tossa trumpin uskonnonvapaus-executive orderissa on että sen varjolla voi kieltää raiskatuksi tulleilta naisilta terveysvakuutuksen, koska jeesus
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#9629 Post by Suomalainen tilauspukki » 04 May 2017, 22:03

Tällainen Yle1 nyt:
McDowellin piirikunta Länsi-Virginian osavaltiossa on kokenut Yhdysvaltain talouden rakennemuutoksen kovimman jälkeen. Vielä 1960-luvulla piirikunnassa oli 100 000 asukasta. Nyt enää 18 000. Piirikunta on myös yksi Yhdysvaltain köyhimmistä.

Demokraatit äänestivät Trumpia

Piirikunta on ollut myös vahvaa demokraattien tukialuetta. Mutta ei enää: Viime vuoden presidentinvaaleissa kolme neljästä piirikunnassa äänestäneistä kannatti Donald Trumpia.

Sheriffi Martin West on valittu yhdeksän kertaa virkaansa demokraattien ehdokkaana. Hänkin sanoi äänestäneensä nyt Trumpia. "Trump toi meille toivon, hän lupasi uutta elämää hiilikaivoksiin. Se oli ainoa toivo, joka meillä on ollut pitkään aikaan", sanoo West, joka on paitsi sheriffi, myös helluntaiseurakunnan pastori.

West on asunut koko ikänsä piirikunnassa. Hän sanoo nähneensä monen lapsuudenystävänsä menettäneen työnsä kaivoksissa ja sortuneen viinaan tai huumeisiin. Piirikunta johtaa koko Yhdysvaltain tilastoja huumeiden yliannostuskuolemissa suhteessa asukaslukuun.
Mukana presidentinvaaleissa 2024.

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#9630 Post by Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa » 04 May 2017, 22:06

Redgreen Rottener wrote:
Pöydällä nakki ja pullo vodkaa wrote:parasta tossa trumpin uskonnonvapaus-executive orderissa on että sen varjolla voi kieltää raiskatuksi tulleilta naisilta terveysvakuutuksen, koska jeesus
Mitä?
Before Obamacare, some insurance companies used to consider medical treatment related to domestic violence and rape a pre-existing condition that would preclude survivors from getting insurance.
tää trumpin aloite antaisi mahdollisuuden firmoille olla toteuttamatta liittovaltion lakia koskien sairausvakuutuksia mikä tarkoittaa että raiskatuilta naisilta ja parisuhdeväkivallan uhreilta voi suoraan kieltää vakuutuksen ja sitä kautta terveydenhuollon lähes kokonaan, koska jeesus. tähän on tultu parissa kuukaudessa :hattu:

tää on myös osa tota republikaanien lakiesitystä mikä meni läpi alahuoneessa. toi trumpin allekirjoittama aloite vaan varmistaa että vaikka tää laki ei menisi ylähuoneessa läpi, nykyisen lain ("obamacare") noudattamisesta voisi laistaa uskontoon vedoten
http://nymag.com/thecut/2017/05/under-new-healthcare-bill-rape-is-a-pre-existing-condition.html wrote:An amendment in the GOP health-care-reform bill will allow states to deny coverage for preexisting conditions, including sexual assault.

Pre-Obamacare rape survivors who sought treatment for their injuries could be denied health care later on
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