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#391 Post by **Trollface-mies** » 15 Jun 2019, 00:09

Nostis tähän topaasiin eli linkkaan Lawyers, Guns & Money blogista parit pätkät joissa selostetaan miksi Bernie brot on tymiä ja Warren rulez. Olen samaa mieltä totta kai.

Linkeistä ekassa ihan aiheellista höröttelyä sille vitun Jacobinin mussutukselle siitä miten Warren oli hirvee elitisti kun ei mennyt Fox Newsiin toisin kuin meidän Bernie joka sinne niin rohkeasti meni: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... ble-voters

Toisessa vähän kevyttä rillausta siitä miten Bernie pojujen mussutus siitä miten niitten epäjumala on REAL THING mitä sosiaalisesti vastuulliseen politiikkaan tulee on, no, täyttä paskaa: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... spoiler-no

Sori vaan Bernie Brot, juna meni jo! Tosin nyt on kyllä Uncle Joen sekoilut vähän isompi ongelma. Täys vatipää trendaa lujasti.

Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja · #392 Post by **Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja** » 15 Jun 2019, 01:21

Joe Biden Wagged His Finger At Me When I Asked Him About Abortion

The story behind the viral Twitter photo.

https://www.vice.com/amp/en_us/article/ ... ssion=true

On Tuesday night, K.C. Cayo’s photo of presidential candidate Joe Biden went viral on Twitter. In the photo, Biden, the current Democratic frontrunner, is pointing his finger in Cayo’s face with his eyebrows raised.

Cayo, a student activist based in Wisconsin, said they had attended an Iowa campaign event as part of a loosely organized group that “bird-dogs” candidates, a tactic that involves seeking out opportunities to ask candidates where they stand on particular issues. Cayo, whose pronouns are they/them, and the two women with them had wanted to ask Biden about his views on the Hyde Amendment, a provision that bans federal funds from being used for abortion. Decades ago, Biden voted against a measure to create exceptions within the Hyde Amendment for survivors of rape and incest, which later passed into law. Last week, he said he still supports the amendment, and then later reversed his stance, saying he would repeal it if elected president.

Cayo said they would have liked to ask Biden about some other issues that have plagued his campaign, like the accusations of unwanted kissing and touching from multiple women, and his making light of the incidents at public events. But they didn’t get to it. “I wasn’t able to even finish my 30-second elevator pitch—I never got past the first sentence,” Cayo said. “Just the fact that he wagged his finger at me in such a condescending manner is very telling.” The Biden campaign did not respond to VICE’s request for comment before publication.

Here’s the rest of Cayo’s story in their words:

Ery weekend, a couple of us have been going to events to ask Democratic presidential candidates where they stand on Supreme Court and lower court reform. We’re hoping that if they get asked about it enough, it will become an issue at the debates and if a Democrat wins in 2020 we’ll get to see some real reform. There are about a dozen of us, and we all met protesting Brett Kavanaugh’s confirmation last year.

We’ve spoken to every candidate at least once now. But this was my first weekend getting to bird-dog with them because I just got out of school for the summer. I got to bird-dog Elizabeth Warren, Kamala Harris, Beto O’Rourke, Andrew Yang, and then, yesterday, Joe Biden.

Usually we catch candidates at the end of a selfie line. It’s a version of us telling our story—whether it be as survivors of sexual assault, someone who protested Kavanaugh, or just someone who’s interested in social justice—and then bringing up the decades-long plot to stack the courts with conservative judges and asking where they stand on that. For the most part, the candidates have been pretty willing to speak.

We rearranged our flights on Monday to get to Ottumwa, Iowa, where Biden was speaking. We changed our questions for him because we wanted him to answer for some of his stances regarding reproductive rights, especially his statements in the last two weeks on the Hyde Amendment. We wanted to tell him why his stance concerned us and then tie it back to the courts.

We got in Biden’s selfie line. First he got to Fran, the woman in the photo with me. She asked him if he was willing or interested in reforming and restructuring our courts. He said something noncommittal—something along the lines of, “I need to think about it.”

Then I reached out to shake his hand and pick up where she’d left off. I said, “Ok, that’s great, because we’re personally very concerned with your stance on abortion, which is a lot more conservative.” Specifically, we were concerned about his less-than-24-hour flip on the Hyde Amendment. That’s where things got confusing: His tactic to deflect us was to keep talking about the Violence Against Women Act [which established the Office on Violence Against Women and funded groups providing resources to victims of gendered violence], as if he didn’t understand what the Hyde Amendment was, so I said, “No, we’re not talking about that.” We asked him to protect survivors. Then he leaned in very close to my face, and started wagging his finger at me. He said, “Nobody has spoken about it, done more, or changed more than I have.” When he walked away I shouted after him, “We deserve better.”

We left after that because we didn’t want anything to escalate; we didn’t want to be in a shouting match.

I’m behind the I Believe Survivors movement, but aside from that, I can now make the connection between the man I saw and the man accused of harassment by multiple women. I saw a man capable of those things: A man who can’t take responsibility, who doesn’t respect women, and who gets in their personal space. He got angry and started to raise his voice, and I think it was an intimidation tactic. There’s no reason to wag your finger at a womxn or reprimand them for asking questions about things you have been in the press for just last week.

Ideally, Biden would have said, “I see where you’re coming from; I see where what I said [about the Hyde Amendment] was harmful or problematic. Here are some ideas I have to protect women.” Or he could have said, “I plan to come up with some ideas.” He could have taken any amount of responsibility for his views. Going in, none of us really believed that would happen, but there’s always a possibility for someone to show they’re capable of change.

With all of the recent anti-abortion bills, now more than ever it’s really important to have a progressive stance on bodily autonomy. Almost all of the other Democratic candidates, especially the frontrunners, have a very progressive stance on reproductive rights. If Biden really wants to win, he needs to fix his ideas on this issue.

The fact that my tweet got this response shows that women and our allies are not going to tolerate politicians like this anymore. We’re sick of it.

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies · #393 Post by **Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies** » 15 Jun 2019, 01:26

Trollface-mies wrote: ↑
15 Jun 2019, 00:09
Nostis tähän topaasiin eli linkkaan Lawyers, Guns & Money blogista parit pätkät joissa selostetaan miksi Bernie brot on tymiä ja Warren rulez. Olen samaa mieltä totta kai.

Linkeistä ekassa ihan aiheellista höröttelyä sille vitun Jacobinin mussutukselle siitä miten Warren oli hirvee elitisti kun ei mennyt Fox Newsiin toisin kuin meidän Bernie joka sinne niin rohkeasti meni: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... ble-voters

Toisessa vähän kevyttä rillausta siitä miten Bernie pojujen mussutus siitä miten niitten epäjumala on REAL THING mitä sosiaalisesti vastuulliseen politiikkaan tulee on, no, täyttä paskaa: http://www.lawyersgunsmoneyblog.com/201 ... spoiler-no

Sori vaan Bernie Brot, juna meni jo! Tosin nyt on kyllä Uncle Joen sekoilut vähän isompi ongelma. Täys vatipää trendaa lujasti.

Foxin välttely ei ole elitismiä, mut on se aika typerää. Tätä on tutkittu ja swing vote tyyppeihin toi kanava vaikuttaa todella paljon, sit kohtuulisen paljon foxia seuraaviin demokraattikatsojiin myös.

Tota on tutkittu, en jaksa mitään linkkejä nyt kaivella.

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies · #394 Post by **Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies** » 15 Jun 2019, 01:27

Joe Biden vähiten mieluisa demokraatti, muuten en osaa sanoa kekö pitäs.

MOISIO · #395 Post by **MOISIO** » 15 Jun 2019, 01:52

Nii en tiedä että mitkä on mahkut sille että 2020 valittava pressa ois joku muu kuin dementoitunut valkoinen vanha rasistimies tai dementoitunut valkoinen vanha mies joka väittää ettei ole rasisti

(No oikeesti tiedän, olemattomat)

Ajattelija · #396 Post by **Ajattelija** » 15 Jun 2019, 09:16

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies wrote: ↑
15 Jun 2019, 01:27
Joe Biden vähiten mieluisa demokraatti, muuten en osaa sanoa kekö pitäs.

Bidenilla on kannatusta ruostevyöhykkeellä joka on aika tärkeää tässä. Nimenomaan Pennsylvania, Ohio ja Michigan valitsivat Truppelin virkaansa

38911 BASIC BYTES FREE · #397 Post by **38911 BASIC BYTES FREE** » 15 Jun 2019, 09:21

Toisaalta, tässä vaiheessa vähän kellä vaan demokraatilla on tuolla enemmän kannatusta kuin Trumpilla (pl. Ohio, joka on pysyvästi menetetty republikaaneille). Trump voitti äärimmäisen niukasti, ja kannatus noissa vaa'ankieliosavaltioissa ei oo ollenkaan sillä tasolla mikä vaadittaisiin uudelleenvalintaan. Tilanne voi toki muuttua vielä.

هی · #398 Post by هی » 15 Jun 2019, 15:19

Nahkanuijan nuupauttaja wrote: ↑
15 Jun 2019, 01:21
Wagged His Finger At Me

pointing his finger in Cayo’s face with his eyebrows raised.

Just the fact that he wagged his finger at me

wagging his finger at me.

There’s no reason to wag your finger

Hyödytön idiootti · #399 Post by **Hyödytön idiootti** » 19 Jun 2019, 17:03

Politiikkaradio: Pitääkö "Keep America Great" Amerikan mahtavana ja Trumpin presidenttinä?

https://areena.yle.fi/1-1485162
Make America Great -kampanja teki Trumpista presidentin. Vuoden 2020 presidentinvaaleihin tähtäävä Keep America Great -kampanja pyrkii pitämään Trumpin presidenttinä. Onnistuuko Trump toistamiseen siinä, missä hänen ei uskottu onnistuvan ensimmäisellä kerralla?

Tekeekö Keep America great -kampanja Trumpista uudelleen presidentin?

Mikä merkitys demokraattien vastaehdokkaalla on Trumpin kampanjaan?

Trumpin presidentinvaalikampanjaa analysoivat John Morton -keskuksen johtaja Benita Heiskanen ja Ulkopoliittisen instituutin vanhempi tutkija Charly Salonius-Pasternak.

Toimittajana on Tapio Pajunen.

Hyödytön idiootti · #400 Post by **Hyödytön idiootti** » 25 Jun 2019, 12:51

USA-asiantuntija: Bidenille voittoa povaavat mielipidemittaukset voi heittää roskakoriin

https://www.ksml.fi/ulkomaat/USA-asiant ... in/1395191

Ingmar Bergmanin kuolema · #401 Post by **Ingmar Bergmanin kuolema** » 26 Jun 2019, 23:02

Kekä kiinnostunut on, niin BBC:ltä löytyy kaikkien demokraattiehdokkaiden lyhyt esittely:

BBC wrote:Democrats 2020: What their key issues are
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-46954566

Jussin villapaita · #402 Post by **Jussin villapaita** » 26 Jun 2019, 23:10

Tulevana yönä ekat töllödebatit.

NBC & MSNBC klo 04:00-06:00 suomen aikaa.

Ja huomenna kans.

Spoiler:

Boromir · #403 Post by **Boromir** » 26 Jun 2019, 23:47

Hyödytön idiootti wrote: ↑
25 Jun 2019, 12:51
USA-asiantuntija: Bidenille voittoa povaavat mielipidemittaukset voi heittää roskakoriin

https://www.ksml.fi/ulkomaat/USA-asiant ... in/1395191

Joo voisin lyödä satkun vetoa ettei Biden ole lopulta ehdokas. Miehen kannatuslukemat laskee joka kerta kun kaveri avaa suunsa ja vaikea se on olla kampanjoimattakaan varsinkin kun vaaleihin vielä rutkasti aikaa.

Warrenin gallupnousu on postiviinen juttu. Oishan se tylsää ollut jos kisa olis ollut pelkkä Biden vs. Sanders vääntö ja onpahan ainakin joku hyvä ehdokas vielä jäljellä, mikäli Sandersilta loppuu paukut kesken kaiken.

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies · #404 Post by **Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies** » 27 Jun 2019, 00:03

Joo ei saatana, toi Biden ei voita Trumpia mitenkään, toivottavasti hyytyis pian.

Poistunut käyttäjä 143c336e · #405 Post by **Poistunut käyttäjä 143c336e** » 27 Jun 2019, 01:33

Kauko Keuhkon näköinen mies wrote: ↑
27 Jun 2019, 00:03
Joo ei saatana, toi Biden ei voita Trumpia mitenkään, toivottavasti hyytyis pian.