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Re: Putinin Venäjä

#3736 Post by fanaattinen vaaliharrastaja » 26 Sep 2018, 16:41

Hans Normaali wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 15:54
Ingmar Bergmanin kuolema wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 11:14
Kesäkunto Kuutio wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 11:01
Hans Normaali wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 10:50
Oon tässä miettinyt että jos tilanne alkaisi kiristymään ihan vakavasti otettavalla tavalla, niin missä kulkee puolustusvoimien kynnys ottaa Ahvenanmaa haltuun ja hallintaan, minkälaisella voimalla ja kalustolla?
http://www.finlex.fi/fi/sopimukset/sops ... 2/19220001
6 Artikla.
Sodan aikana pidetään 2 artiklassa mainittua vyöhykettä puolueettomana alueena, eikä sitä saa välillisesti eikä välittömästi käyttää tarkoitukseen, joka on jossain yhteydessä sotilaallisten toimenpiteiden kanssa.

Kuitenkin on Suomen, jos Itämeri joutuu sodan piiriin, sallittu vyöhykkeen puolueettomuuden turvaamiseksi väliaikaisesti laskea miinoja tämän vesialueelle ja sitä varten ryhtyä sellaisiin laivastotoimenpiteisiin, jotka ovat aivan välttämättömiä.

Suomen on heti ilmoitettava tämä Kansainliiton neuvostolle.
Sodan aikana tällä artiklalla pyyhkäistään varmasti pyllyä ja Ahvenanmaalle siirtyy pikavauhtia prikaatillinen rannikkojääkäreitä. Harmaalla hetkellä kun kaikki muukin on epäselvää, lienee pv:n toiminnan laajuuskin auki. Käsittääkseni maanpuolustuksen yksi nyrkkisääntö kuitenkin on, että jos Ahvenanmaalle pääsee pureutumaan joku vihamielinen taho, on se Suomen kannalta game over, ja sen mukaan toimitaan.
Siinä tapauksessa otaksuisi PV:n interventio-kynnyksen olevan loppujen lopuksi melko alhainen. EIköhän sielläkin ole funtsittu kaikenmaailman uhkakuvat ja mietitty miten niihin vastataan. Itelle tulee mieleen lähinnä joku venäläisten helikopteri-osasto kuljetus- ja taistelu-helikoptereita, jotka lentäis Suomenlahtea matalalla tutkan alapuolelle avomeren puolelta Ahvenanmaalle, ja sitten olisi meri- ja ilmatorjunta-ohjukset valmiina alta aikayksikön ja sen jälkeen saarten takaisin valtaaminen vaatii jo vähän paukkuja. Aika Remes/Clancy-menoahan toi olisi, mutta sitähän se on.
Jos konflikti ois päällä niin kukapa tuota Ahvenanmaan remilitarisointia mahtaisi protestoida. Yksi valtio lähinnä tulee mieleen.
Jälkeenpäin on aina helppo arvostella, mutta tässä on aika monta asiaa, mitä tähän liittyy.
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Re: Putinin Venäjä

#3737 Post by kiimainen dinosaur » 26 Sep 2018, 16:59

:D Olisi pirullisen hauskaa jos konfliktin uhatessa ruotsalaiset ottaisi ja valtaisi Ahvenanmaan meidän ja venäläisten edestä.
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#3738 Post by fanaattinen vaaliharrastaja » 26 Sep 2018, 17:06

arse-nikki wrote:
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:D Olisi pirullisen hauskaa jos konfliktin uhatessa ruotsalaiset ottaisi ja valtaisi Ahvenanmaan meidän ja venäläisten edestä.
Ottavat revanssin vuodesta 1918
Jälkeenpäin on aina helppo arvostella, mutta tässä on aika monta asiaa, mitä tähän liittyy.
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Re: Putinin Venäjä

#3739 Post by Hans Normaali » 26 Sep 2018, 17:54

arse-nikki wrote:
26 Sep 2018, 16:59
:D Olisi pirullisen hauskaa jos konfliktin uhatessa ruotsalaiset ottaisi ja valtaisi Ahvenanmaan meidän ja venäläisten edestä.
Voipi olla juu että jos syystä tai toisesta suomi jättäisi tämän peli-liikkeen tekemättä kriisin sattuessa, niin ruotsalaiset ei epäröisi. Tosin joku yhteinen takeover suomen ja ruotsin kesken vois varmaan myös olla mahdollinen. En tiä. Kiva spekuloida. [-o<
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#3740 Post by Hans Normaali » 26 Sep 2018, 17:56

Ahvenanmaata puolustetaan viimeiseen Taffelin sipsiin asti!!
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#3741 Post by Suomalainen tilauspukki » 26 Sep 2018, 20:13

Hans Normaali wrote:
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Ahvenanmaata puolustetaan viimeiseen Taffelin sipsiin asti!!
Nämähän on jo myyty norjalaisille ja funtsivat sipsituotannon lopettamista, kun ei ole kovin kannattavaa.
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#3742 Post by Liskomies » 02 Oct 2018, 05:38

Makedonian riita Kreikan kanssa ei ratkennut* ja ilmeisesti Venäjä oli tässäkin mukana.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... for-russia

*Äänestysprosentin olisi pitänyt nousta yli 50%, ja nyt parlamentin ei ole kai pakko noudattaa sitä.
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#3743 Post by MC Nigga T » 08 Oct 2018, 16:44

rt.com wrote:Russian ‘Male State’ leader faces criminal charges over extreme misogyny

A man in central Russia is facing up to five years in prison for launching and maintaining a group called ‘Male State’ on one of the country’s social networks. The group’s members used it to collectively degrade and bully women.

The Russian Investigative Committee reported on Friday that its branch, in the major industrial center of Nizhny Novgorod, had pressed charges of extremism against a 27-year old man from the nearby Saratov Region. In comments with Lenta.ru news site investigators revealed the suspect’s name as Vladislav Pozdnyakov.

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Male State founder Vladislav Pozdnyakov © image from Vkontakte social network

Investigators claim that the suspect had been the mastermind behind the ‘Male State’ group on Russia’s most popular social network Vkontakte. They also claim that most of the texts and images posted by the suspect and other group members amounted to hate speech.

“He was posting texts in which he spoke of women from a negative viewpoint using obscene words,” they said.

Pozdnyakov was detained in late September and his apartment was searched but back then his name and the reasons behind his arrest were not disclosed to the press.

About a month before that, officials from the Investigative Committee of Russia detained two more suspected ‘Male State’ members in the Far Eastern city of Khabarovsk - some 8,000 kilometers (4,970 miles) from Nizhny Novgorod. The pair were also charged with extremism as investigators suspected that they had planned arson attacks. However, unlike Pozdnyakov his comrades hated not only women (they claimed that all Russian women were prostitutes) but also people from the Caucasus republics - the regions with a predominantly Muslim population. Their reason for this was their belief that Caucasian Muslims were killing ethnic Russians as police turned a blind eye to the matter.

The ‘Male State’ closed group has over 150,000 members on Vkontakte, although it is not clear how many of them are real people and not so-called bots. The group has 25 branches in various cities across the country.

Interestingly, the arrests in the ‘Male State’ group came very soon after a similar investigation in the Siberian city of Omsk. There, a young woman Lyubov Kalugina was officially charged with extremism for posting jokes and cartoons about men on her Vkontakte page.

Kalugina spoke to reporters after her detention and described the case as another example of male discrimination against women as, in her words, she had repeatedly complained about online posts that insulted women and humiliated their dignity, but never achieved anything.
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#3744 Post by fanaattinen vaaliharrastaja » 08 Oct 2018, 17:32

Haluaisikohan Pozdnyakov lähteä Käyräsaaren joulusaunaan?
Jälkeenpäin on aina helppo arvostella, mutta tässä on aika monta asiaa, mitä tähän liittyy.
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#3745 Post by Jesse Python » 08 Oct 2018, 17:41

Mitä vittua
The ‘Male State’ closed group has over 150,000 members on Vkontakte, although it is not clear how many of them are real people and not so-called bots. The group has 25 branches in various cities across the country.

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#3746 Post by Poistunut käyttäjä 143c336e » 14 Oct 2018, 16:24

The Guardian wrote:Communist challenger exposes cracks in Putin’s grip on power

An unexpected victory for an opposition candidate has panicked an unpopular government into cancelling the contest altogether


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The Communist wunderkind Valentin Konovalov should already be Siberia’s youngest governor, but the elections he’s supposed to win are cancelled every other week.

The virtually unknown 30-year-old rode a wave of protest to win a first-round ballot in Khakassia, a republic in eastern Siberia, last month. The results were an embarrassment for the ruling United Russia party and the Kremlin, which backed the incumbent. But his opponents have found an easy way to keep him from winning the run-off: don’t hold it.

“It’s absurd,” said the candidate, who names Lenin as a political inspiration, over a cup of tea. So far, two of Konovalov’s opponents have dropped out, delaying the vote by two weeks each, and now an elections commission claims he misfiled his paperwork. Konovalov is likely to be disqualified.

“We should have won the elections outright,” he said. “Now they’re trying to keep power illegally.”

With Russia’s ruling party facing a sharp decline in support, local officials have had to scramble in some regions to maintain control. In the far east, another Communist candidate looked set for victory until a suspicious burst of votes for the pro-government candidate. Moscow cancelled the election wholesale for ballot-stuffing, the first time that’s happened since the 1990s.

United Russia’s support has fallen to 31%, the party’s lowest ever. Many Russians are frustrated. A slow economy and corrupt local officials are common complaints in the regions. One senior official in Khakassia is nicknamed “Hungry” because of his reportedly bottomless appetite for kickbacks.

Another factor this year has been a new pensions reform that will delay retirement for all Russians by five years. Men must work until 65 and women until 60, making people feel years have been stolen from them.

Signed into law by Vladimir Putin last month because of a need to balance the budget, the decision has fuelled a fiery election season that already looked rough for Moscow.

“It felt like a slap in the face,” said Svetlana Makhova, a 32-year-old administrative assistant on maternity leave, who moved to the Khakassia’s capital, Abakan, six years ago. She didn’t attend protests against the pension reforms, she said, because she didn’t support the Communists. But she said the local government, led for nine years by a man named Viktor Zimin, had it coming.

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Putin visiting Khakassia. The president’s popularity has been dented by his pension reforms.

“Let Putin come and live here,” she said, pointing to a rundown block of apartments. “Rather than taking money from us, why doesn’t he stop them from stealing it?”

Russia has operated for more than a decade under a policy of “managed democracy”, where elections are held, but the candidates are filtered and the results are preordained. Lately, there’s been some trouble managing this. “Let me put it this way: when I was working, I was in control of 100% of politics in Khakassia,” said Vladislav Nikonov, the former chief of staff for Zimin.

Konovalov was widely seen as a “technical candidate”, one who is nominated just to lose, and the Communist party is often called “pocket opposition”. But somewhere along the line, this turned into a real election, which the authorities have tried to cancel. “The people managing politics in Khakassia now have fouled this up,” Nikonov said.

The pensions issue further depressed support from voters who usually rally behind the government, including so-called budzhetniki, whose jobs are supplied by the state.

“The pensions did play an important role but politics is always a combination of factors,” said Alexander Kynev, a political analyst who studies Russian elections. “When things are already bad, people’s incomes are not increasing, and then there’s more bad news about the pensions, the results become much, much worse.”

Khakassia, a poor region with both breathtaking countryside and mining and smelting operations, is not well known even to Russians. So the attention it’s received over a surprise protest vote, and then fumbling attempts to cancel the results, have made the elections something of a laughing stock.

Over cheap draught beer near the state university, several students lashed out the elections. “The rule is this: if they win, it’s OK, and if they lose, then we start over,” one said.

Foreign attention on Russia has focused on major international incidents, including the Salisbury nerve agent attack or interference in US elections. But at home many Russians are sympathetic to a president seen as under attack from the west.

Far more important to Putin’s ratings, which have fallen precipitously this year, is the economy and the budget. So in order to get out the vote, the Kremlin dispatched heavyweight political advisers, musical performances and even an air show to Khakassia before the elections to raise public opinion. A famous military choir performed. The governor sang on stage. And public forums were held under the hashtag #What’sNotRight?

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The steppe north of Akaban in Khakassia, a region few Russians have even heard of.

None of it worked.

“People were ready to vote for anyone other than [Zimin],” said Valentina Ustyakhina, the director of an independent local news site called Information Agency Khakassia, which has been critical of the government and faced closure as a result. “Of course, the pension reform riled people up and you saw protests. But there was already a lot of anger.”

It’s now an unusual moment here for local politics. Konovalov sees opportunity. He is a dyed-in-the-wool Communist, born to engineer parents in the factory town of Norilsk, who joined the party in his second year of college. He called Lenin his personal idol in an interview, describing him as “a man who could unite people of different views”. He had also spoken positively of Joseph Stalin in a previous interview with a Russian outlet, calling him a “great state actor” who “had made mistakes as a leader”.

It might be the Communists’ big chance, he said. “I think this is the beginning of the era of change. We’re going to see United Russia’s hegemony collapse soon.”

Others are more critical. By threatening to disqualify Konovalov, whom he said was too inexperienced to govern, the state risked “making a hero out of him,” said Nikonov. The government had ended up in a crisis of its own making. If you don’t know how to hold on to power, then you shouldn’t be in politics,” Nikonov said.

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#3747 Post by Hyödytön idiootti » 24 Oct 2018, 17:01

Olemme kaikki Homo Sovieticuksia.
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#3748 Post by Hyödytön idiootti » 25 Oct 2018, 22:34

Putinlandia - Tarinoita Venäjältä https://areena.yle.fi/1-4553750
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#3749 Post by fanaattinen vaaliharrastaja » 05 Nov 2018, 22:45

In Soviet Russia kissat koiriasfsdfsdfsöäsflä
Jälkeenpäin on aina helppo arvostella, mutta tässä on aika monta asiaa, mitä tähän liittyy.
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#3750 Post by Laku » 25 Nov 2018, 21:50

Venäjä hyökännyt Ukrainan laivaston kimppuun kolmea alusta tulitettu ja venäläiset miehittänyt ne mustallamerellä.
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