Piffin islam topik

[Pasi Fist]

Nyt kun vielä todettaisiin, että edustamani ateismi on pääsyynä radikalisoitumiseen ja fundamentalismiin islamilaisen maailman piirissä niin voidaan lukita koko topik.

Kukas se rinnastikaan kanssakeskustelijan terroristiin kun oli taas kerran käsittänyt tämän sanomiset nurinniskoin...

Jos ton sun kiemurtelun saisi muutettua sähköenergiaksi niin vaikka Pakistanissa saisi monta vääräuskoista ja ateistia teloitettua sähkötuolissa rikoksista uskontoa vastaan.

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https://www.hs.fi/ulkomaat/art-2000005890614.html

Pakistanissa kuolemantuomiosta vapautetun kristityn naisen asianajaja vihjasi anovansa poliittista turvapaikkaa Hollannista – sanoo kuolevansa, jos palaa Pakistaniin

YK kiistää vieneensä asianajajan pois Pakistanista vastoin hänen tahtoaan.

Pakistanissa kuolemaantuomittua ja nyttemmin vapautettua kristittyä naista edustanut asianajaja Saif-u-Malook haluaa pysyä Hollannissa. Uutistoimisto AFP:n mukaan hän vihjasi anovansa poliittista turvapaikkaa.

Malook matkusti Hollantiin avustettuaan oikeudessa 53-vuotiasta neljän lapsen äitiä Asia Bibiä, joka vietti melkein vuosikymmenen vankilassa tuomittuna kuolemaan jumalanpilkasta. Tuomio kumottiin viime viikolla, kun maan korkein oikeus totesi, että syytöksille ei ollut tarpeeksi näyttöä.

Ääri-islamilaiset protestoijat järjestivät korkeimman oikeuden päätöksen jälkeen Pakistanissa suuria mielenosoituksia, joissa vaadittiin Bibin kuolemaa. Myös päätöksen tehneiden kolmen tuomarin ja Malookin henkeä on uhattu.

Malook sanoi maanantaina tiedotustilaisuudessa Haagissa, että YK:n ja EU:n edustajat olisivat vieneet hänet lentokoneeseen vastoin hänen tahtoaan. Hän sanoi, ettei olisi halunnut lähteä maasta ennen kuin on varmistunut, että Bibi on päässyt pois vankilasta.

AFP:n siteeraaman hollantilaisen median mukaan Malook totesi kuitenkin tiistaina: ”Jos Hollanti ihmisoikeuksia puolustavana maana ei auta tai suojaa minua, lähden mieluummin Pakistaniin murhattavaksi.”

Hollannin ulkoministeriöstä todettiin AFP:lle, että ministeriö selvittää, voiko Malook saada maasta tilapäistä suojelua.

Malook oli YK:n suojissa sen jälkeen kun mielenosoitukset Pakistanissa alkoivat. Malookin mukaan YK piti hänet toimistossaan kolme päivää ja vei sen jälkeen pois maasta.

YK kiisti vieneensä Malookin pois Pakistanista vastoin tämän tahtoa.

”YK jatkoi Pakistanissa Malookin suojelua hänen pyynnöstään eikä pakottanut häntä lähtemään maasta vastoin omaa tahtoaan, kuten ei voi pakottaa ketään poistumaan Pakistanista vastoin asianosaisen tahtoa, totesi YK:n edustaja AFP:n mukaan.

Malook oli viime lauantaina todennut AFP:lle, että nykyisessä tilanteessa hän ei voi elää Pakistanissa.

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https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/ ... ll-in-jail

Pakistan blasphemy case: Asia Bibi freed from jail

Christian labourer has left detention facility but has to stay in Pakistan


A protester holds an image of Asia Bibi in Islamabad. Her husband and children are living at a secret address in fear of their lives.

Asia Bibi, the Christian farm labourer whose blasphemy case has triggered violent protests and assassinations in Pakistan, has been freed from jail but remains in protective custody, a week after the country’s supreme court overturned her conviction.

Officials said that she left a detention facility in the Punjab province amid tight security on Wednesday and was flown to Islamabad, where she was at a secure location because of threats to her life.

“She has been freed. I have been told that she is on a plane but nobody knows where she will land,” her lawyer Saif-ul-Malook said in a message sent to AFP.

Bibi, who had spent eight years on death row, had been left in limbo after the government struck a deal with religious conservatives to end protests, which erupted after her acquittal.

Her husband and children have been living at a secret address in Pakistan in fear of their lives, and have made repeated appeals to the international community to help secure the whole family’s safety.

“Help us get out of Pakistan. We are extremely worried because our lives are in danger. We no longer have even anything to eat, because we cannot leave the house to buy food,” Ashiq Masih, Bibi’s husband, told Aid to the Church in Need, which campaigns on religious freedom.

He told the BBC World Service that he had not seen Bibi since her acquittal, and the family was worried about her safety. Religious extremists have threatened to kill her.

Authorities now say Bibi may not be able to leave the country because a petition for a review of the court’s ruling was filed by a radical Islamist lawyer requesting the acquittal be reversed. Pakistani courts usually take years to decide such cases.

Bibi’s lawyer, Saiful Mulook, fled Pakistan at the weekend after being issued with death threats, and is seeking asylum in the Netherlands.


Asia Bibi: protests erupt in Pakistan after blasphemy conviction overturned - video

Canada, France and Spain were reportedly considering offering asylum to Bibi and her family. Her husband has also appealed to the UK and the US to offer a safe haven.

In Italy, Matteo Salvini, the hardline anti-migrant interior minister, said he would do “all that is humanly possible” to ensure Bibi and her family were safe, either in Italy or elsewhere.

Bibi was convicted of blasphemy after a row with Muslim women in her village. Two Pakistani politicians were killed for publicly supporting her and criticising the country’s blasphemy laws.

The supreme court’s decision last week to overturn the verdict led to violent protests throughout Pakistan and calls for the judges in the case to be killed.


Asia Bibi at a prison in Sheikhupura near Lahore, Pakistan.

Imran Khan, Pakistan’s prime minister since July, has been criticised for capitulating to extremists over the case.

“Khan swept to power earlier this year on promises to restore the rule of law, to champion the oppressed and marginalised and to deliver justice. His party is, after all, called the Movement for Justice,” said Omar Waraich of Amnesty International.

“But what does that even mean when, in the space of just two days, he went from warning the mob against using violence, to bowing to their demands?”

Khan’s former wife, Jemima Goldsmith, accused him on Twitter of caving in “to extremist demands to bar #AsiaBibi from leaving [Pakistan], after she was acquitted of blasphemy – effectively signing her death warrant”.

The Religious Liberty Commission, a coalition of organisations campaigning against Christian persecution, have called on Khan to allow Bibi to leave the country.

“Following her unjust imprisonment and long-awaited release, it is clear that Asia’s life is in danger in Pakistan … As others involved with the case continue to flee the country, we affirm that Asia’s safety is now the responsibility of prime minister Khan,” it said.

[Doctor Muñiz]

Laitetaans tää 31 vuotta tuomiota odottanut poliisien suorittama massamurha tänne, kun toi Ayodhyan moskeijan tuhoaminen ja Raman temppelin rakentaminen kyseiselle paikalle taas on nousemassa tapetille Intian ens kevään vaaleissa:

Hashimpura’s long wait for justice

Omar Rashid

Test of strength: Recollecting her numerous trips to the Tis Hazari court in Delhi for the trial, Hazra, in her seventies, asks: “How could we answer our conscience if we had given up the battle?” Picture shows Hazra, at her residence in Hashimpura, with the pictures of three of her family members she lost. | Photo Credit: R_V_Moorthy

The conviction by the Delhi High Court of 16 personnel of the U.P. Provincial Armed Constabulary (PAC) for a massacre of Muslims committed 31 years ago was seen as bringing closure to one of India’s biggest custodial killings. Omar Rashid reports from Meerut and pieces together an account of the survivors

“I don’t know why Allah saved me! Perhaps, I was spared to seek justice for my brothers and myself,” reflects Mohammad Usman, as he gently limps towards a small shop owned by his friend, on the road leading to Hashimpura. Nestled in the bustling city of Meerut, in Uttar Pradesh, residents in Hashimpura now recall the ‘massacre’ of 1987 when close to 45 Muslim men were picked up by the Uttar Pradesh Provincial Armed Constabulary (PAC) and 38 of them were shot dead at close range under the cover of the night, on May 22. Five survived. The PAC is an armed unit of the State Police deployed to tackle the law-and-order situation.

Hashimpura has no distinct markers or landmarks apart from a defunct cinema hall named ‘Gulmarg’ located a few blocks away. You might drive past Hashimpura locality without giving it even a second glance. The slightly built Usman, in his late fifties, with silver-grey hair, and wearing a faded cream kurta, baggy white pyjamas and dark sleeveless coat, blends perfectly into the nondescript landscape. But the scars on his body chronicle a sordid story. So does his aching limp, to which he makes several references in our conversation.

On that fateful night, on Friday, Usman cheated death not once but twice. He was shot at twice, the first bullet piercing his abdomen and exiting from the lower back. The second punctured his right thigh, leaving him with a permanent limp. “The PAC men should have been hanged!” he says, his voice shaking in anger and regret. “They left me a wreck in my 20s and made me forever dependent on others. I was bedridden for over a year.”

After a long wait of 31 years, the Delhi High Court, on October 31 this year, sentenced 16 personnel of the PAC — some of whom are still serving men — to life imprisonment for abducting and later shooting dead the 38 men. In doing so, the court overturned the trial court’s decision to acquit the same, in 2015. But the order brings little succour to Usman.

For Usman, the conviction has come a little too late; a mere consolation, not justice. The trauma has not only crushed him morally but also wrecked him financially, forcing him to take up menial jobs. But he had to quit work eventually, as the condition of his leg did not permit him to work long hours. The ₹5 lakh compensation which he received when the Samajwadi Party was in power in the State was spent on paying debts from medical treatment and pooling into the donations and contributions for the legal fight of the survivors. He even had to sell his two-storey house in Hashimpura and move to Ahmed Nagar, another locality 3 km away. He trembles as he recalls the day when he along with the four others survived the massacre, termed by many as one the biggest custodial killings in the country.

Massacre on a holy day

It was a hot May afternoon and the last Friday of Ramzan in 1987 when, after attending prayers at the local mosque, the men of Hashimpura retired to their homes. The atmosphere outside was tense, following weeks of communal clashes in Meerut in the aftermath of the opening of the locks of the Babri Masjid. A curfew had been imposed when a search operation was launched by the Army and the PAC in Hashimpura on May 22. This was after two rifles belonging to the Constabulary were allegedly looted by “anti-social elements”, and the brother of an army Major posted there had been shot dead in a locality adjacent to Hashimpura. There are different narratives of the days leading up to the massacre and its likely trigger, and things are still inconclusive to this day.

Two survivors, Zulfiqar Nasir (right) and Mohammad Usman, recollect the fateful day, at Hashimpura. | Photo Credit: R_V_Moorthy

One theory is that the killings were retribution for the murder of Prabhat Kaushik, a young Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh worker who had died of a bullet injury. The shots were allegedly fired from Hashimpura. This was on May 21. It was alleged that the Prabhat’s brother, Satish Kaushik, who was posted as a major in Meerut then, had orchestrated the custodial killings to avenge his personal loss. However, none of this was ever brought on record or his role investigated.

Shadab Rizvi, a senior journalist from Meerut, who reported the incident, says there was “no direct link” between Prabhat’s murder and the massacre. His account of the events leading up to the massacre are as follows. The PAC men harboured a grudge against local Muslims after they were allegedly attacked with stones and acid bottles while trying to enter the area for a search operation following a communal incident a day earlier. “The PAC men were angry with the Muslims of Hashimpura over their aggressive stance. They took them to a canal in Ghaziabad and killed them there for the reason that the battalion was based there and they felt it was a lot safer,” says Rizvi.

The most popular narrative is that on the fateful day, the Army went on a door-to-door and roof-to-roof search-and-arrest operation and rounded up over 600 Muslim men. They were then paraded out of the narrow lanes to the main street, near a peepal tree. The Army then handed over the men to the PAC who sorted them into three groups: the aged, the boys and the young men. Between 42 and 45 of the healthiest men were then packed inside a yellow-coloured truck of the C-Company of the PAC’s 41st battalion and driven away. The detainees, forced to keep their heads low, were clueless about where they were headed. They assumed that like the rest, they would be taken to Abdullahpur jail, 4 km away, or the nearest police station. “But it was an act of deceit. They told us that some of the senior officers wanted to speak to us, so we agreed to go. It was a search operation only in name,” says Zulfiqar Nasir, another survivor.

The events of the day were captured by a photographer, Praveen Jain, whose graphic black and white images show petrified Muslim men and boys with their hands raised being forcefully paraded through the lanes of Hashimpura by Army soldiers. The images proved to be crucial testimony in the conviction of the accused. Jain says he had no idea the photographs he clicked that day would become “historical”. “I had no hint of what was in store for these men. No weapons were recovered from the locality and I believed they were being arrested as a formality, to be released later,” he recalls.

Zulfiqar Nasir was a high school student then, barely 17. Today, seated on a sofa in his house in Hashimpura, which over the past three decades has become a rallying place for the victims and families for a prolonged legal battle. Zulfiqar was the first to survive the brutality that day and narrate the experience before the media. That evening, after the truck was driven near the Gang Nahar in Ghaziabad, on the outskirts of Delhi, the PAC dragged the men out of the vehicle and then shot them using their .303 rifles. First it was Yasim and then Ashraf. Zulfiqar was third. Like the first two, he too was thrown into the canal. But he feigned death and miraculously survived by concealing himself under the bushes. Later, he escaped on foot. “It was dark and the PAC men wore helmets to avoid identification. The night turned out to be my ally as the constables could not see where I got hit,” Zulfiqar recalls.

He was too terrified to understand what the PAC men were saying to each other. Even while shooting him, they did not speak to him or make any communal taunts. “All they did was prod each other to hurry up and finish the job,” he says. While in the truck, they communicated very little with each other and whispered whenever they had to say anything.

Jatkuu

[Doctor Muñiz]

A ghost of a place

In Hashimpura, the throbbing sounds of the cottage looms resonate in the backdrop. Hashimpura was once a weaving hub for traders who came here from different States to purchase cloth. Most men here today work as daily wage labourers, small artisans or run stalls for a living. Zulfiqar is relatively better off and trades in tube-well spare parts.



Some of the survivors of the night were rescued by locals and the remainder by the State police. Clearly, their ordeal was not over. The policemen who found Usman threatened to poison him to death if he named the PAC in his statement. Usman initially gave in and for almost a month his family did not know his whereabouts as he was taken to Delhi for treatment. His five brothers had also been lodged in jail. The massacre took place in two phases. As the Delhi High Court judgment notes, the policemen stopped firing in the Gang Nahar after they noticed the headlights of an approaching vehicle and then moved the truck towards Hindon canal, stopping at its culvert. A PAC jawan, Leela Dhar, even sustained injuries after a ricocheting bullet hit him. After the first three persons were shot, the others in the truck screamed for help. As they tried to jump off, the PAC fired at them indiscriminately.

The PAC men then got down, opened the rear portion of the truck and finished the task. They dumped the bodies into the Hindon river. The incident left behind grieving families, including widows and mothers who lost their breadwinners. Hazra, in her seventies, lost three members of her family: son Naeem, who was only 14, her brother-in-law Zaheer, who worked the embroidery on clothes, and his son Javed, 13.

In several ways, the Hashimpura massacre is also testimony to the mental strength of the survivors and their families, who despite the odds, did not abandon hope for justice. The legal battle was supported by the victims themselves through donations and contributions.

“No political party helped us,” says Zulfiqar. The Samajwadi Party only gave us some economic relief in the form of ₹5 lakh compensation (in 2015). We did not get help in the same magnitude that we suffered. But we didn’t allow any politician to interfere.”

Their faith in the courts remained unshaken. Babuddin, another survivor, filed the first First Information Report at Link Road police station in Ghaziabad. Originally from Dharbanga in Bihar, he was visiting his uncle in the hope of finding a job in Hashimpura when he was also picked up. Today, he works as a weaver.

Recalling her numerous trips to the Tis Hazari court in Delhi for the trial, Hazra asks, “How could we answer our conscience if we had given up the battle?”

Zaibunnisa’s struggle was even harder. Her husband, Iqbal, who was 29, was also killed leaving her with three young daughters to look after. The youngest girl, Uzma, was born only two days before the incident.

Holding a photograph of Iqbal, a handsome young man with a neat moustache and neatly packed black hair, Zaibunnisa becomes emotional. “We had been married for five years. Our dreams were also not complete. My daughters did not experience the love of a father,” she says.

Iqbal was shot in the head. The family never got to see his body but identified his clothes. For Zaibunnisa, it meant starting life afresh by sewing and doing labour work. Today she lives alone in a house gifted to her by a son-in-law. All her girls are now married. Her eyes well up as she recalls life with Iqbal. “He didn’t do anything. He was scared of the police and never stepped out of Meerut,” she says, recalling that tragic separation.

Targeted killings

The Delhi High Court pronounced the case as “targeted killings” of Muslims and a custodial killing. The judgment assumes significance in the context of impunity in custodial death cases and police brutality. Despite being accused of such a grave crime, the PAC men continued to be in service. The Hindu spoke to four of the convicted PAC men, who had claimed in court that they were not present when the killings happened. One of them, Niranjan Lal, 64, who was a section commander then and now retired, claims his innocence. He says that he and his team did get into the truck but were asked to drop off at the Meerut Police lines, deposit their weapons and go back to their tents.

Lal says that as a consequence of the case, he retired as head constable, a post he had been promoted to early in his career. “Had this case not come about, I would have retired as inspector. I would have never allowed it to happen. I thank God that I was not a part of such an incident,” he says. Lal and his three associates claim that they were made to drop off so as to avoid the lone Muslim among them, Samiullah Khan, from being a part of the operation as he could not be trusted, and to also avoid suspicion. Samiullah, from Deoria, corroborated this explanation.

The CB-CID, which was handed the probe, filed a chargesheet in the criminal court in Ghaziabad in 1996. The Delhi High Court noted in its order that over 20 warrants issued by the criminal court between 2000 and 2003 had failed to produce an outcome. The trial was later transferred to Delhi on the orders of the Supreme Court after the survivors and their families were not satisfied with the progress of the investigation, alleging bias. Charges were framed against the accused by the trial court in May 2006: there were 19 originally, but three, including platoon commander, Surendra Pal Singh, died during the trial. The charges filed were for murder, criminal conspiracy, kidnapping and disappearance of evidence, among others.

Retired Indian Police Service (IPS) officer, Vibhuti Narain Rai, who was then the superintendent of police of Ghaziabad, says that despite political parties which claim to be sympathetic towards Muslims coming to power, neither was a prosecutor appointed in the case for long nor was an investigation properly supervised. It was only in May 2014 that the statements of the accused were recorded. But a year later, all 16 PAC men were acquitted by the trial court, which noted that the evidence required to connect them to the killings was missing.

“When they got a clean chit, I thought there is nothing called law in India,” recollects Zulfiqar. The acquittal was challenged by the survivors and their families and the National Human Rights Commission was allowed by the court to seek a further probe. The High Court then allowed additional evidence to be recorded in the case. Rebecca Mammen John, counsel for the victims in the High Court, says the ‘General Diary’ entries kept by the PAC that marked the battalion in question moving towards Hashimpura, and the return entry were the evidence that really clinched the case.

However, she rues that there was no urgency displayed by even the judiciary to take the case forward despite it having been transferred to Delhi. While there were serious indications of a cover-up and destruction of evidence, a lot of evidence was also not brought forward and was at the PAC level, says John. But the larger questions, of conspiracy and culpability, still remain unanswered. Was this a standalone case of a few PAC men going berserk betraying their communal mindset? The senior-level officer prosecuted in the case was a sub-inspector.

“My 36 years of experience in the IPS tells me that he cannot take such a big decision. And even if he takes such a decision, his under-command will not obey,” says Rai. He believes the PAC wanted to “teach the Muslims a lesson” which is why they selected the healthiest of the lot.

John says there was “absolutely no evidence” on record to support the theory that it was a case of revenge killing: “There was no attempt on the part of the prosecution to find out if these men acted on the instructions of their superiors or political masters.”.

Back in Hashimpura, Hazra says the conviction has provided “dil ko sukoon (solace)”, but insists that the PAC men deserve death: “Those policemen kept their jobs, lived a normal life and groomed their children and their future and are going to jail when they are almost ready to die. And look at us!”

While the conviction has brought a sense of consolation, the survivors are still grappling with questions. Naeem, another survivor, has only one question: Were we targeted because we were Muslims?

Zulfiqar chips in and wonders, “There were many Muslim localities in Meerut they could have chosen. Why did they pick on Hashimpura?”

The question hangs in the air.

https://www.thehindu.com/news/national/ ... epage=true

[chris barnesin isä]

Doktor Munis: mitä mieltä halal shawarmasta?

[Doctor Muñiz]

En oo varmaan koskaan syönyt.

[chris barnesin isä]

En oo varmaan koskaan syönyt.

Shame! Ihan helvetin hyvää.

[Liskomies]

Uskontoon liittymätön kastilaitos jatkaa tykitystään.
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Guardian: Kuolemantuomiosta vapautetun Asia Bibin perhettä jahdataan Pakistanissa – ääri-islamistit kulkevat talosta taloon mukanaan kuvia perheenjäsenistä

Pakistanissa jumalanpilkkatuomiosta vapautetun kristityn naisen perheenjäsenet kertovat, että ääri-islamilaiset ryhmät jahtaavat heitä.

Asia Bibin perhe kertoo, että ääriryhmät liikkuvat talosta taloon mukanaan kuvia perheenjäsenistä.

He ovat joutuneet piileskelemään sen jälkeen, kun Pakistanin korkein oikeus vapautti kuolemaan tuomitun Bibin.

The Guardian (siirryt toiseen palveluun) kertoo, että perhe on joutunut muuttamaan toistuvasti paikasta toiseen välttääkseen joutumasta jahtaajiensa käsiin.

– Joskus he liikkuvat vasta auringonlaskun jälkeen. Heidän on peitettävä kasvonsa, kun he menevät julkisille paikoille, kertoo Bibin vapauttamisen puolesta kampanjoineen katolilaisen Aid to the Church in Need -järjestön edustaja John Pontifex.

Bibi on ollut turvasäilössä tuntemattomassa paikassa siitä lähtien, kun maassa puhkesi levottomuuksia oikeuden vapauttavan päätöksen jälkeen.

Hallitus sai rauhoitettua protestit, kun se määräsi Bibin matkustuskieltoon ilmeisesti vanhoillisen Tehreek-e-Labaik -puolueen painostuksesta.

Bibin asianajaja ja hänen tukijansa ovat vedonneet länsimaihin, että Bibin perhe saisi turvapaikan joko Euroopasta tai Yhdysvalloista. Monet maat ovat ilmaisseet olevansa valmiita tarjoamaan turvapaikkaa, mutta toistaiseksi mistään konkreettisesta ei ole sovittu.

Asia Bibi tuomittiin jumalanpilkasta vuonna 2010. Hän ehti olla kahdeksan vuotta vankilassa ennen kun korkein oikeus vapautti hänet syytteistä.

Korkeimman oikeuden päätöksen jälkeen ääri-islamistit ovat vaatineet sekä Bibin että hänet vapauttaneiden tuomarien surmaamista.
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Ja näiden samojen ihmisten harmistumista Suomen hallituskin pahoitteli Jyllands-Postenin kuvien jälkeen

[Doctor Muñiz]

Pannaas tää uudelleen siinä toivossa, että sulla olis kirkkaampi hetki kun viime kerralla

vieläkö tää vitun paska jatkuu

Ajattelin Seksimaagikon nostosta innostuneena pistää tuon keissin ja katsoa tuleeko Doktor selittelemään asian parhain päin pistämällä asian joko kolonialismin, kastiperinteen tai auringonpilkkujen syyksi. En joutunut pettämään enkä ajatellut sen enemmän tähän postailla.

Tällanen paljastus, että mä en ole kirjoittanut tota Bbc:n juttua.

Turhahan se toki on olettaa, että ymmärtäisit, että se mistä jupakka on saanut alkunsa, on eri asia kuin koko jupakka. Sähän tarjosit tähän syyksi sitä, että naapurit eivät tykänneet, joten sun logiikalla saadaan, että selitit asian parhain päin pistämällä asian naapuriepäsovun syyksi.

Seksimaagikko ei myöskään tätä nostanut etkä sinä pistänyt tuota keissiä vaan tää alko sivulle 441 postatusta Asia Bibin tapaukseen liittyvästä uutisesta. Onhan sekin tietysti ratkaisu sisälukutaidottomuuteen, että jättää vallan lukematta...

[Maukkis]

^Ihan vitun pienestähän toi koko jupakka on saanut alkunsa.

[Doctor Muñiz]

Kastisyrjintä on ihan arkea ja näkyy just tällaisena meidän ylempikastisten kaivosta et juo -touhuna. Sitten kun on tällaista kätevää lainsäädäntöä ja sitä omin päin tulkitsevia uskonnollisia kiihkoilijoita painostamassa poliisia ja oikeuslaitosta, niin päästään näille leveleille sen jälkeen, kun kieltoa loukkaavaa keksitään syyttää profeetan pilkasta.

[Liskomies]

Tätä kahden naisen murhaa
Islamin* nimissä ei vielä tainnutkaan olla missään mainittu...

*eli siis islamistin normaali uhriutumislogiikka jossa kenen tahansa murha on oikeutettu koska jossakin kuitenkin (usein muslimimaissa) sorretaan muslimeita.

[kohta alkavat aikamoiset setit]

Hyvää Joulua Damar!

[Ananaskääpiö]

Oma jyrkän fiksu asiakeskusteluni on rinnastettu terrorismiin.