NEWS:Floridassa ammuskeltu homoklubilla

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Tämmönen tuli vastaan sosiaalisessa mediassa:]

Mites noissa erilaisissa "Union-Bustingeissa" kuoli porukkaa kun duunareita pantiin aisoihin, monesti kivääreillä.

Aika paljon. Mutta ei missään kerralla niin paljon kuin Wounded Kneessä.

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Tämmönen tuli vastaan sosiaalisessa mediassa:]

Mites noissa erilaisissa "Union-Bustingeissa" kuoli porukkaa kun duunareita pantiin aisoihin, monesti kivääreillä.

Aika paljon. Mutta ei missään kerralla niin paljon kuin Wounded Kneessä.

Juuh elikkäs:

Battle of Blair Mountain: the largest labor uprising in United States history and the largest organized armed uprising since the American Civil War. During an attempt by the miners to unionize, and following the murder of Sid Hatfield, 10,000 armed coal miners confronted 3000 lawmen and Baldwin-Felts strikebreakers, who were backed by coal mine operators. Up to 30 deaths were reported by Chafin's side and 50–100 on the union miners' side, with hundreds more injured. On September 2, federal troops arrived by presidential order, and the miners started heading home the next day. About one million rounds were fired in the battle.

Miljoona patruunaa ammuttu ja saatiin ehkä jopa vähän yli sata ihmistä hengiltä? Herää taas kysymys onko amerikkalaisten mieltymys suuriin lipaskapasiteetteihin seurausta siitä ettei ne vaan oikeasti osaa ampua eivätkä osu mihinkään.

Tässä vois myös mainita Tulsan pogromin 1921, jonka vainajamäärää ei yksinkertaisesti tiedetä. Tuoreeltaan tehdyt arviot vaihtelivat 30 hengestä 300 henkeen, ja alakanttiin ilmoitetut lukemat olivat satavarmasti valetta. Sitä ei tiedetä senkään vertaa, moniko musta amerikkalainen kuoli Greenwoodin polttamisen jälkeen eristyskeskuksissa, mutta aika varmasti puhutaan nelinumeroisesta lukemasta. Samaa mittaluokkaa kuin Wounded Knee, todennäköisesti menee sen ohitse.

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VIHALUOTI!!

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Guns don't kill people, people kill

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Guns don't kill people, cops kill

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Guns don't kill people, people with guns kill

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tosin jos siellä on yhtään useampia laukauksia vaihdeltu poliisien kanssa, niin ei ihme jos joku olis saanut ns. huti kutin. Tuollapäin maailmaa taitaa olla tapana rakentaa rakennukset pahvista ja 9mm luoti menee aika monen pahvin lävite.

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tää tais jäädä ketjusta:

Orlando massacre was "revenge," not terrorism, says man who claims he was gunman's lover

Mateen was "very sweet" and liked to be "cuddled," the man told Univision. But he was upset about the way gay men responded to him.

Por: Univision.com
Publicado: jun 21, 2016 | 06:06 PM EDT
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Omar Mateen, the Muslim gunman who committed the Pulse nightclub massacre in Orlando, was "100 percent" gay and bore a grudge against Latino men because he felt used by them, according to a man who says he was his lover for two months.

“I’ve cried like you have no idea. But the thing that makes me want to tell the truth is that he didn’t do it for terrorism. In my opinion he did it for revenge,” he told Univision Noticias anchor Maria Elena Salinas in an exclusive interview in English and Spanish on Tuesday.

He said Mateen was angry and upset after a man he had sex with later revealed he was infected with the HIV virus.

Asked why he decided to come forward with his story, he said: “It’s my responsibility as a citizen of the United States and a gay man.”

The man said he had approached the FBI and been interviewed three times in person by agents.

Univision was unable to independently verify his account. The FBI confirmed to Univision that it had met with him.

The man, who did not want his true identity revealed, agreed to an interview wearing a disguise and calling himself Miguel. Speaking in fluent Spanish and accented English, he said he met Mateen last year through a gay dating site and began a relationship soon after. He and Mateen were "friends with benefits," he said.

He described Mateen as “a very sweet guy" who never showed a violent side. He loved to be cuddled. "He was looking for love," he said.

When Miguel heard about the massacre on the news he said he was stunned. “My reaction was that can’t be the man I know. It’s impossible that the man I know could do that,” he said.

Mateen opened fire with a semi-automatic rifle during a Latin-themed night at Pulse in the early hours of June 12, killing 49 people and wounding dozens more. He was killed in a shootout with police hours later. Most of the dead were Hispanic.

Investigators are still looking into the motives for his rampage.

Attorney General Loretta Lynch told reporters on Tuesday that investigators may never be able to pinpoint a single motive and have not ruled out witness reports suggesting Mateen might have had gay interests. "While we know a lot more about him in terms of who he was and what he did, I do not want to definitively rule out any particular motivation here," she said.

In a 911 call from the club, Mateen pledged solidarity with the Islamic State group, and officials say he had explored websites of armed Islamic extremists.

Miguel recalled on one occasion Mateen expressed his criticism of the U.S. war on terrorism and the killing of innocent women and children. "'I told him, you're totally right,'" said Miguel.

Mateen never revealed his name to him, saying only that he was 35 years old and married with a son, Miguel told Univision. He said they met 15-20 times, the last occasion in late December. He said he believed Mateen's second wife knew he frequented gay bars and that his marriage was a smoke screen to hide that he was "100 percent" gay.

“He adored Latinos, gay Latinos, with brown skin – but he felt rejected. He felt used by them – there were moments in the Pulse nightclub that made him feel really bad. Guys used him. That really affected him,” Miguel said. "I believe this crazy horrible thing he did – that was revenge."

Mateen, who liked to drink, expressed frustration over his father's extreme views on homosexuality, which included a belief that "gay people [are] the devil and gay people have to die," Miguel said.

Mateen was especially upset after a sexual encounter with two Puerto Rican men, one of whom later revealed he was HIV positive, he added.

"He [Omar] was terrified that he was infected," he said. "I asked him, 'Did you do a test?' Yes. He went to the pharmacy and did the test … it came out negative but it doesn't come out right away. It takes 4, 5 months."

"When I asked him what he was going to do now, his answer was 'I'm going to make them pay for what they did to me.'"


Information from the Associated Press was used in this article

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Wife of Orlando Pulse nightclub gunman Omar Mateen arrested

- Noor Salman held, FBI and attorney confirm, on charge of obstruction
- Mateen killed 49 and wounded 53 in attack on Pulse LGBT nightclub

The wife of the gunman who killed 49 people in the Pulse nightclub shooting was arrested on Monday near the Bay Area, an FBI official said.

Noor Salman is the widow of Omar Mateen, who died in a shootout with police after the 12 June 2016 terror attack at an LGBT night club in Orlando, Florida, in which 53 people were wounded.

“I can confirm she was arrested this morning in the Bay Area,” a local FBI official told the Guardian.

The official was unable to confirm the exact charges against Salman, explaining that Florida’s middle district FBI office, which covers Orlando, was handling the case and therefore made the charges.

Messages left for the middle district office were not immediately returned. Linda Moreno, Salman’s lawyer, whose website describes her as an expert in the criminal defense of “national security and terrorism cases”, confirmed Salman had been charged with obstruction.

In a statement, Moreno said: “Noor Salman had no foreknowledge nor could she predict what Omar Mateen intended to do that tragic night.

“Noor has told her story of abuse at his hands. We believe it is misguided and wrong to prosecute her and that it dishonors the memories of the victims to punish an innocent person.”

A Twitter post from the US attorney’s office in Orlando said Salman would make her initial appearance on Tuesday morning in Oakland, California on federal charges filed in Florida.

Salman was interviewed by FBI officials immediately after the attack and has said she was “unaware” of her husband’s plans to embark on a mass shooting.

She described her husband, who she met on a dating website in 2011, as abusive, often choking her or pulling her hair. It was the second marriage for both of them.

The shooting took place in the early hours of a summer Sunday, during Latin night at the popular gay nightclub. Many of those killed were young, gay people of color.

Mateen described himself as an “Islamic soldier” in 911 calls recorded during the Pulse attack. The CIA said it found no direct link between Mateen and the terror organization.

Reports at the time indicated that Mateen may have been motivated by struggles with his own sexuality and that Pulse regulars said they had seen him before.

The 29-year-old was a security guard living in Fort Pierce, Florida with his wife and son, about two hours drive from Orlando. He was born in New York City but his family moved to Florida when he was a child.

After the Orlando attack, the Senate tried and failed to pass laws regarding background checks and gun control restrictions.

The scene of the deadliest mass shooting in US history has been purchased by the City of Orlando and will become a permanent monument to those killed.